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26 minutes ago, Nahkatoteemi said:
You relegate new team from nowhere to Pro? wtf? In this case new team just pops out somewhere and tooks place front of best Lite teams nose example...
The rules are a very flexible concept in here. Now you are just making one rule more what you can't hold.
As you can see. Small core. I rest my case.
No, if an elite team disbands and reforms they would be placed in pro. And yes they should be, since they are better than the best lite teams, sorry but it's true. If the lite team got promotion, they would get promoted, if not, then you can't complain that an ex-elite team takes a vacancy NOT filled by regular promotion.
Small core? Dude I have no idea what you're trying to get at? Since the context of my post was that they'd lose their place in the top division by reforming, something that is in the rules right now anyway and won't be affected by the proposed rule change.
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7 minutes ago, Nahkatoteemi said:
That's good point if we had some money involved. But u are talking about amateur league and I assume that NHLGamer is trying to make somekind of community here (before they make us pay to join leagues etc). If top players can just make new team in every season to fill open spots how it supose to serve anything?
I'm new here so I can see how small is the core who actually uses power here. They keep the administrators in their mouth. I don't want this to be "Happy place" I wanna just think bigger (Lite or Pro team in Elite playoffs ain't one of my sheet).
What? No, that's not related to this in anyway in regards to the money involvement. The players would lose their spot in the top division though? I don't see your point since they'd be relegated into pro, so then one team from pro would be promoted.
Again, what? I will say it certainly feels like there's a mentality of 'yes-men' here but I've said that before. I don't think people are 'bullying' admins or anything like that if I read your message correctly.
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3 minutes ago, Peacerich_se said:
Yes, they would in my example but in my other example they wouldnt necessarily have to just steal that spot right off, they can play team 7 for it and the team from Lite could play team 8 for their spot, Unfortunately there cannot be 16 playoff teams in Elite when it only consists of 16 teams and with the promote/regulation system Elite would have to expand in order for this to work, therefor in my other example if Elite was expanded to like 22 teams or something it could be done with 14 teams from Elite and 1 each from Pro and Lite. You could also have a system where top 7 in Elite goes to the playoffs while the winner from Pro faces off against the winner from Lite and the winner in that matchup plays number 8 in Elite for the final 8th spot. Like I wrote before this can be done in a million ways but what I´ve wanted all along here is just to bring up the fact that I think it should be possible for all teams to win the cup, IN THEORY, if its every gonna happen is not interesting.
You have to realise however that by increasing elite to 22 teams, all the actual 'good' teams from pro will be there instead of, well, pro. Thereby increasing the skill difference between playoff bound teams in elite and any respective team from pro. Plus you still aren't compensating for the fact that the pro (and lite) team had a much easier time getting to the playoffs than any of the elite teams did.
Look I get what you're trying to do but as I've said previously, making it so that teams below elite can make it to the 'real' playoffs is just insulting to elite teams that didn't make said playoffs, plus it's completely pointless because it's nulifying the whole point of a division system, to keep teams segregated until they've proven that they can hang with the group higher than them.
Finally, I'm just gonna say that it shouldn't be possible during normal league play for every single team to be able to win the 'cup'. If however there was a once a year tournament where there was a proper seeding and round robin / swiss system and all that jazz then sure, but yea, as much as I would like that, it ain't happening because of this random ass division system.
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37 minutes ago, Nahkatoteemi said:
Let's take a look at csgo.
Team that is top 30 in the world decides to join a new org and make a new team -> Event organisers realise they can't throw this new team in the lower divisions because it's a waste of time and will only serve to annoy people -> Ergo they place the new team in invite leagues and things above 'open'.
Translated, a new team would be able to play in Pro because they're clearly good enough to play in it. Lite should be there for brand spanking new teams that have new players that don't have a proven skill level.
"Fastlane" for pro is only there for proven teams and players, not new ones. Plus lite is at the beginner level as others have wrote, such a league is neccessary and is prevalent across many games and e-sports, you want to complain about it, fine, but you can't argue that it'll 'close the community' as that's just plain wrong.
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14 minutes ago, Peacerich_se said:
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I agree, they should have "more" access to the Elite Playoffs this is not a pro league, its a community where we like to compete. Again, im not suggestion a huge playoff with alot of teams from lite and pro being matched up with the elite playoff teams, just two spots, one for Pro and one for Lite.
No offence to them and you are right, they wouldnt win the Elite playoffs and I´ve never claimed that they would but they wouldnt get battered with 4-0 and a goal difference of 44-3, they would maybe lose 4-0 but thats a different story. The top team from Pro would have to face lesser skilled players overall, yes, but they would still have to win the whole thing which would mean that on the way they would have to beat opponents that are as good and in some cases even better than some of the teams from Elite, so they would still deserve it.
You misunderstand me, I wasn't advocating for pro teams to be able to play in the elite playoffs. Based on your example a pro team would make the playoffs over elite teams, despite it not being clear whether they're even better than the elite team(s) they're replacing, plus they'd have had a much easier path into the playoffs than said elite team(s). Sure this is a 'community' that likes to compete, but there's a difference between being irrational and logical. Elite is called elite for a reason, thusly the elite playoffs is quite literally, the 'elite of the elite', sure you have to actually get promoted to elite before being able to play but that's fine imo.
Sure, I get it people want to be inclusive and make this a happy place league where "everyone can win" but come on now, pro teams making the playoffs in place of elite teams is lunacy.
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In terms of skill I wouldn't rule out lower elite teams being close in skill to top pro teams, truth be told the skill discrepancy between the 'top of elite' and the lower end is pretty damn large as is anyway. That said however, the difference between any 'top' lite teams and any elite teams is so huge I would even venture to say the elite team could start 0-3 down and still win. As for the pro teams the skill gap is of course not as insane, but at the end of the day they're playing in pro to get promoted to elite, why should they have more access to elite playoffs then actual elite teams?
You say that the best teams in lite (atleast a few) would be better than lower elite teams, sorry but that's just wrong. No offence to Hawks Hockey Club / Old Farts / Dynamo Danglers / Dead End Kings but I think even they could tell you that they wouldn't stand a chance in elite playoffs. Pro division, there's an argument to be had for sure, but it's still a little silly that a pro team could face lesser skilled opponents to make the playoffs than an actual elite team would.
And sorry but if having to be in elite to win the cup annoys you then there's an easy remedy for that... get good enough to play in elite, it's pretty simple.
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So based on the poll, people are voting for scenarios like this to happen:
Elite team disbands -> Players form new team with majority from elite -> Get placed in lite and absolutely destroy teams down there -> GG everyone
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We're (Northern Ascendancy) still searching for people to play defence [starting pos].
If you are interested and you feel you can play in elite please message me here or on psn (usernames are the same in both locations).
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23 minutes ago, Asche said:
Hey Guys ,
How about the 3 vs 3 mode as a esports section . With small handgrips you can develop an interesting esports game .
- all penaltys are a penalty shot
- no cpus!
- smaller ice field (bigger than arcade)
- more speed and endurance (endurance bar that fills)
- adapted ice areas and other things you can see that it is not normal ice hockey.
- shorter periodscould imagine that would very well arrive and hope nhl or easports thinks also to the esports and fixes itself not on eashl esports.
What are your thoughts about it?so long asche
Electronic game ≠ Esport, especially one as insanely arcade-y as three vs threes.
EASHL 6s struggles with a myriad of issues as is, threes (assuming we're talking about the threes mode and not eashl 3s) in my mind will be no different. Plus I highly doubt more people are interested in seeing some over the top cheesey gameplay as opposed to actual 6s games, but I've been wrong before.
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The stickhandling makes me feel like I got a lobotomy over the summer.
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https://www.twitch.tv/martindalexc
Northern Ascendancy, will stream all ECL games at the very least.
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Also you should take note of the refresh rate. The Acer Predator has 144hz which is good for competitive games such as CS and shit where you will often have more than 200 fps, you will however get zero benefit from it if you just use the screen for PS4 gaming since the fps never goes higher than 60. So I'd save the money and go for a low input lag 4k 60hz screen.
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Northern Ascendancy
ECL Elite
'Confirmed' players so far, maybe more to come, who knows
Gzell60, D (Germany's Finest)
Playmaker1010, F (Germany's Finest)
Poliskontroll, G (Synergy)
New logo coming soon...
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Just now, iSvamp said:
Yes, kind of.
What about yours? still empty?
Mine can receive messages I think
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22 hours ago, iSvamp said:
Free again
Elite, Pro, Lite
RD
Backup if needed
Swenglish, I also (like Eyebiz) understand the word "vittu".
PSN: IiSvampI (Dunno if it's "L" or "i")
I like fins and retoInbox is full
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27 minutes ago, SadaPoika said:
Wtf
? pls no chatbox comments here omg did you not read foppas post???1?
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On 06/04/2017 at 8:57 PM, Snapster said:
ok
On 06/04/2017 at 9:00 PM, jumalpeku said:allu wins
On 09/04/2017 at 10:25 PM, Pelle3000 said:Where is the mold?
Yes please admin take these posts away, they are infringing upon my team's personal space and are too chat boxy, help, BotAllu is scary
Oh wait, I'm not 12
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2 minutes ago, Casper said:
The players that give you goosebumps... 🙄
Pajenc32
>Goosebumps
>Pajen
Pick one
(/s)
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Top 5 all positions...
C: Anton, n/a, Playmaker1010, Windblad, My Gran
LW: I'll be humble, Me, Playmaker1010, Gretzky
RW: Playmaker101010, Anton on vodka, Svamp
LD: Gzell, Playmaker1010, Budget Boy
RD: Gzell, Blake, Rob, Aina
G: Poliskontroll, Pleemaker, Bjono
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Digital only unfortunately
https://www.easports.com/nhl/news/2017/nhl-18-pre-order-offers
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On 22/06/2017 at 6:18 PM, MartindalexC said:
Elite club Northern Ascendancy is still looking for defenders, please message me here or on PSN if you are interested!
Additionally we are also looking to find a LW/RW. This position will be a starting role so bare that in mind.
The spots available (LD / RD) are ofc starting positions so ECL time is guaranteed!
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The rules are a very flexible concept in here. Now you are just making one rule more what you can't hold.
ECL 5 Poll: Should a new team be allowed to apply for ECL Pro?
in European Championship League - PS5 & Xbox Series X|S(6v6)
Posted · Edited by MartindalexC
I mean, if a lite team finished above them in the playoffs then they should have a higher priority than Old Farts if a spot is open in pro.
If they are 'good enough' to had have an elite spot for ECL 4 then they should have been good enough to clinch promotion through the playoffs anyway.
[Edit] Also can we appreciate how painful it is to go look through previous tournaments' playoff stages? Seriously, unless I'm being retarded and missing something plainly obvious, how hard is it to make a playoff tree?