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Can someone give me at least one good reason why you still allow X-factors at this point, when you’ve already banned eleven (?) of them and restricted builds by position? These days I don’t really care what SG does, I just play, but I’m genuinely wondering. Back in the day, I voted to either ban all of them, ban none or ban only a couple of the most overpowered ones. But this current approach of banning around 75% of them and letting the rest stay just doesn’t make sense. Yes, some of them are more useful than others, but the main idea behind all of these traits is the same: they’re basically stupid superpowers breaking the game mechanics. If you ban traits like hit boost, better balance and ones that generate extra pressure from spamming shots, then why on earth do you allow auto-saucers, speed boosts on pass reception, 2x endurance and whatever else is left? Yes, you can probably answer that by saying the community hasn’t complained enough about those perks being overpowered, but now we’ve reached that point and this is exactly what we knew would happen once you started banning traits one by one. You’re basically leaving breadcrumbs on the table. No hate, it just feels like there’s no logic behind it anymore.

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Some people may be wondering why I disappeared from the scene after early 2024. This is my situation: My company had unpaid invoices from SportsGamer from early 2024. A claim was filed in the District Court, and a judgment has been given. However, the enforcement authority has not been able to collect the payment from the company. There have been no updates to the situation during the past six months.

Geez… people here have less patience than my 3-year-old daughter (and hers is absolutely sh**e). Looks like some of you just want drama. People shouldn’t judge before knowing the facts! Sportsgamer promised to give more info in a couple of days, so by tomorrow (Friday) at the latest (?). Why can’t you just wait a bit and then judge when you have the facts? I understand the appropriate questions because people want answers. I’ve known Kenu since before most of you were even born. If there’s one person in the world who would never steal your money or scam you in any way, it’s Kenu. People seem to forget pretty fast. Remember that Kenu has done this for years and years for free. Because it is his passion. At least we owe him the chance to explain everything. From my point of view, maybe not all the wisest decisions have been made but the community should also take a look in the mirror. The community demanded prize pools under the threat of leaving Sportsgamer (a few years ago), and… here we are. Sportsgamer was NOT ready for this. One thing I know is that it's not easy to get a sponsor for this game. Also, to the people here advertising other leagues: there’s a saying “the grass isn’t always greener on the other side”. It takes a lot of work to manage a league and deal with all its problems. You need to be extremely passionate about it to do it all for free. …And before people start saying I’m taking sides, that’s not true. Do I agree that people should receive their money asap and that the payments have taken unacceptably long? Yes. Do I think some risky decisions were made? Yes. Do I think Sportsgamer shouldn’t ask for more money before the old debts are paid? Yes. I don't know why the payments haven't been made in 90 days as promised, but all I’m asking for is a little bit of patience - let them publish the info before judging. I know for a fact that many players, including Elite players, have opinions or suggestions or are blaming SportsGamer. Why are they not opening their mouths now when it's time to speak? That’s because the community is so toxic and they are afraid of being bullied or slaughtered. So they criticize SportsGamer in private. Man up and open your mouth if you have something to say!

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Thanks for the update. Are there any plans to transition into a more bare-bones platform with decreased additional content? Sorry if you've already mentioned this and I missed it. I do give credit to Kenu and the rest of the staff for making the presentation and broadcasts so much more polished and professional. SG has come far from the days when I was co-hosting streams with Kenu and spilling water all over his tech equipment. However, I believe saving money on this type of content (broadcasts, articles, whatever it is) and just focusing on the core platform would make the whole operation more sustainable. I believe that 99% of the scene probably doesn't even care about that content, no matter how much it has improved. The bulk of the community payments comes from the sheer number of Lite teams, right? I think most people are only paying the ever-increasing price of entry because everyone else is playing in the ECL, and people are mainly interested in joining teams that participate in the competitive leagues and tournaments. Basically, if you don't pay for the player and license fees, you are reduced to a casual-only player and left out of the scene. You have nothing to play for unless you're content playing just for fun. Is the game itself good enough without the rush of competitive play? I'm not so sure. Most people really only need the core platform: the hosting and organizing of leagues, the team and player management, the statistics system, the conflict resolution by admins, etc. I understand the push for better broadcasts, articles, and other content. After all, it not only looks better and makes the whole operation feel bigger and more meaningful, but greater engagement should also bring greater numbers. That should translate into better visibility, attract better sponsorship deals, garner more revenue and result in continued growth. But perhaps that is not realistic at the end of the day? The user count has grown a lot, but the revenue streams apparently haven't. Or if they did, they seem to have dried out. The core problem may be the actual game that this whole operation is based on. Not only is the NHL series rather stagnant and not very well-designed around competitive play, it continues to be quite niche in the grand scheme of things. As a conspicuous example, most of the active followers on the streams seem to be players in the scene, which is in contrast to big esports games where you have mass viewership and plenty of fan activity around the players and organizers themselves. I truly commend Kenu and the other people behind SG on their beautiful vision and the hard work they have put into realizing it over the years. Some years ago, doing the streams with Kenu, I personally got to see him behind the scenes juggling multiple things at once while going all out to give us the best experience possible. I hope he continues at the helm through all of this despite the thankless position that he now finds himself in. I honestly believe that he's the most passionate and committed person for the task, and we are lucky to have him. But maybe it's time to scale back? As an irrelevant aside, I'm kind of baffled by what the internet has become. It's like half the people are communicating through glorified predictive text algorithms, resulting in a back-and-forth of em dashes interspersed with the algorithms' rote attempts at engaging the reader. I miss when people wrote in broken English, but with their own authentic thoughts behind every word. I know I've become the old man yelling at the cloud, but I'll take it.

We want to thank everyone for the constructive feedback and the strong engagement in the recent discussions and survey. We’re carefully reviewing your input internally, and we’re pleased to confirm that the ECL will continue. We remain fully committed to meeting our obligations and to delivering the same level of passion and dedication that this community has shown throughout the years. A more detailed update about the ECL and our next steps will be shared within the next couple of days. We truly value the open dialogue that has taken place. Constructive discussion — grounded in facts and mutual respect — helps us move forward together. We hear your concerns and understand the frustration — our priority is to communicate clearly and ensure that the next steps are built on trust and stability. — The SportsGamer Team

I heard somewhere that long posts are good regardless of the arguments, so I'm back. Also I'm unfortunately still a defender so don't try to think I'm a goal hungry forward. Sounds pretty fucking OP to me. Would even perfectly explain the ridiculousness of the saves goalies have been making in NHL 26. Right now there is a huge problem of goal scoring opportunities being really inconsistent or even consistent in being saved by goalies regardless how they're playing the situations. For example, you have a two on one attack, pass for a one timer in the slot, thats going in maybe 20% time even if the goalie is sucking his own thumb in the net. Personally I think that if there is plenty of open net it should be a goal almost every time. So even Finsere said it, increasing skill ceiling is what an aspiring competitive game should do. In regard of attributes, in HUT in a similar situation, you can green time that one timer with blue 1T trait with 90 shooting abilities and goalies without traits make that save more than they should. So it definitely is possible in CHEL if you actually make the save. Also personally I think if goalies are able to save everything if positioned well, thats game breaking. So you should be able to straight up challenge the goalie from a good scoring positions with pretty high percentages. Especially you should be able to score almost everytime when the goalie is out of position. Means that bad defending is punished more -> it is rewarding to try and build good chances. Right now it really isn't rewarding at all to make 5 instant passes leading to an open net chance just to be saved by a goalie looking at someone beautiful in the crowd. -> Just shoot or just force passes and let luck take the wheel bingbangboom 1-0 letsgo fun game. Also because Sere threw out some numbers without any thought, red sponge gives you +75% controlled save ability. And if three traits active at the same time you could get more than +50% reaction time, +25% save accuracy, +25% save ability. And these numbers are actually available now, not like his 50% reaction reduction which nobody uses because it still isn't in the game in CHEL. Everybody is now using 15% reduction. And he is using elite sponge instead of using elite post to post, what I guess he has by the level of his CHEL dude and his words in the other post. This one might the furthest reach I have seen in a while. So just because on average there are more goals per game -> there are less undeserved saves. I'm not saying you are wrong, I didnt play at the start of NHL 24 and was still trying to open up my monitor during spring 24. But this argument just makes no sense. For example, more goals could mean that defenses are playing worse -> more chances -> more undeserved saves. Or did you look at the shot totals, shooting percentages. From what I have been talking, 100% of people have agreed with me that in 26 there are more bullshit saves than in 25. Maybe its just me and lack #luck. I like these bans and like the fact that you are making decisions on your own without trying to please everyone. Personally I don't have anything against the demographic way on these but also think that's not going to lead to the best results. My only question is after all these bans, what is the reason to not ban everything. What do the remaining traits give that makes them good for the game. There aren't that many of them so we can go one by one. Second wind: wtf even is this, nobody has ever even entertained such an absurd idea. "So okay what if we make it that when you have no stamina you actually have stamina even full stamina"... I want what that guy is having. Is next a teleport for defenders so if a forward gets a breakaway you can teleport to save the situation. Warrior: Probably going to be on many builds. Makes you harder to hit in a game where it is really easy dodge hits and bumps already if you are playing with your thumbs and not your feet. You stand up after a hit really fast, dont lose any energy. Quick pick: Helps once in while if you are positioning yourself like a blind donkey, if you are actually playing where you should be, activates once every other night so just useless and really random. Stick em up: Everybody and their mothers are crying about pokes with or without it, usually because they are too good but now because they are too bad. My personal free advice to this is L2P. (just a joke, even if I'm the most arrogant guy around.) But seriously its the same as last year, it helps a bit but you can just play without it and you'll be completely fine. Born leader: … Just a cool idea but actually absolutely nothing in real competitive gameplay where there aren't shots and hits flying everywhere. Shooting traits: Personally I like these just keep these (but only golden, more belove), more ways to punish actual bad defending and not just score by throwing the puck on the net, towards the net, in front of the net, play some pinball, bingbongbang and LETSGO 1-0(just repeat the same joke until it's funny). I understand this is never going to happen because the level of defending in this scene already causes 10 goals a game but if you wanted a competitive game, this is the way. Maybe the level of defending would even go up cause mistakes would actually be punished. just trust me bro Ankle breaker: Touch right stick, defender maybe falls. I think this sounds good. Said nobody ever. Passing traits: There are so many automatic saucers that if you want to pass the puck, there's no way you are going to use these. Just adds randomness without any reasonable benefits. Goalie traits: Already went through this in the first paragraphs. So maybe it's time for #banthemall, I would say at least ban all elite(red) traits and maybe even the blue(all-star) ones. For example red beauty backhand gives you 100% power and accuracy which is just hilariously OP. For me just allowing golden shooting traits (or even blue ones)would lead to most competitive and rewarding game. You couldnt score any ridiculous goals with just them but if the defense is breaking you can actually punish it without goalie traits saving everything. You could say this is bullshit for goalies but it's even more bullshit for goalies to work your ass off to make great saves and keep up with the play and position well, just to see opponents goalie listening to payphone playing with a blindfold saving everything. As for gamer, I think you guys should try to be more active about messaging elite teams to try and test out different ways of doing things. Like this week #banthemall, next week just golden traits or without the red ones. So we would actually have some real info of how the game feels with different "settings". We could do it ourselves but I might not be the most liked guy around for good reasons so I just can't bother because I think elite teams are too lazy to test stuff out by themselves.

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So it's been some time, and I won't bother to recall all details at this point. My time at SG is in the past but to comment on your point, I was compensated as a freelancer for some of my work at SG, not only limited to being the editor. This was a rather small amount in the grand scheme of things and the compensation was based on other projects outside of the ECL also. I don't have info on other people being paid nor did I have the authority to agree on any form of potential compensation for any work done by other writers. I haven't read through the whole thread so that's as much as I'll partake in any tea spilling but I'll say that the writing was on the wall for a long time already and it's sad it came to this. I'll cherish my time at SG as both a player and editor, even amidst all the chaos. Hopefully the community can pull through. Kenu - keep your chin up!

SportsGamer Update – Current Situation and Next Steps Dear community, As previously communicated, SportsGamer has faced significant financial challenges over the past few years. Despite these difficulties, we remain committed to meeting our obligations to our players, contributors, and the wider community — and to ensuring the ECL’s continued future. Prize Payment Plan We have established a payment plan to settle the delayed ECL ’25: Winter and ECL ’25: Spring prize payouts in four installments: October 30: 50% of ECL ’25: Winter prizes November 14: remaining 50% of ECL ’25: Winter prizes December 15: 50% of ECL ’25: Spring prizes December 30: remaining 50% of ECL ’25: Spring prizes The first installment will be processed at the end of October, and we are committed to following this schedule in full. Players and teams with pending payments are being contacted directly to confirm details. We appreciate everyone’s patience and understanding as we complete this process in full transparency. We are also in contact with our long-time contributors and partners to address outstanding matters and keep everyone who has supported SportsGamer’s operations informed. For any ECL ‘25: Spring winners wondering: It is possible to use your prize money to purchase an ECL ‘26: Winter license already in November, even if the payments are scheduled to take place in December. ECL ’26 Season Schedule and Pre-Season Tournament Next week, we will announce the ECL ’26: Winter season schedule and open registration. However, license fee collection will not begin until after November 16. Before the new season officially begins, we will also host a free ECL Pre-Season tournament, open to all players and teams. The goal is to give everyone the opportunity to play, reconnect with the community, and enjoy competitive games without any entry fees. Prize Pool Structure and Transparency For the ECL ’26 Winter season, at least 35% of net license-fee income (after VAT and transaction fees) will be paid out as prize money. The remaining funds will cover operational and production costs and support the continued stabilization of our operations. The initial prize pool estimate will be published before the start of the season, based on confirmed registrations at that time. If additional licenses are purchased during the season, the final prize pool will be adjusted accordingly and disclosed once all registrations are complete. For players with full-year licenses, their contribution will be divided evenly between the Winter and Spring seasons. To maintain transparency, we will share the total net license income with the community after each season. Addressing Community Concerns SportsGamer operates in full compliance with Finnish corporate law. The 2023 financial statement has been completed and will be officially filed once the review and approval process is finalized, while the 2024 financial statement is currently being prepared. Accounting and auditing are managed by an independent accounting firm and a certified auditor. No shareholder has taken any profit or withdrawal from the company at any point. Kenneth Lehtinen received a salary for his operational work until December 2024. The company has operated at a loss throughout its history, funded by shareholder investments. The company is also pursuing opportunities to strengthen its financial position and secure the long-term future of the ECL. Summary Our goal is to rebuild trust through concrete actions. SportsGamer was founded on passion and community spirit, and we want to ensure that future ECL seasons continue delivering a high-quality and sustainable competitive experience for all players. Thank you to everyone who has continued to engage with us and share constructive feedback as we work to move forward together. – SportsGamer Leadership Team

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Welp things changed again so Free LW/RW cant play thursday or sunday but other days available 20-20.30CET Elite/Pro

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Up! Still looking for starter LD😅

Thank you Sportsgamer for the update, as promised. Excellent post by @Grizzly17 Most of the questions were addressed, but on the other hand, many still remain unanswered. It’s great news that you’re working to fix the debts. You’re also asking the community your paying “customers” to have patience and understanding, which is fair enough. However, as a community, we also expect more concrete answers in return. What I’m asking for is that Sportsgamer be as open and honest as possible about the situation. If you want the community’s help, then please give us more concrete answers: Where did the prize pool money from the winter and spring events ultimately go, if there wasn’t enough left to pay the players and teams? Why did it take so long for Sportsgamer to acknowledge these problems, given that they’ve clearly been ongoing for some time? Would Sportsgamer have publicly admitted to this difficult situation if the community hadn’t started asking these questions? Will Sportsgamer take responsibility for paying the debts owed to @iRSPe's company? This is a great start but it’s not enough! Do not underestimate the community; we’re not stupid.

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Free backup license D (also G) for preseason tournament & ECL26 Winter. Both handedness work. Player type prime Jaccob Slavin. As a G I'm on mute munching cashew nuts while I mentally break down opposing teams. I expect zero ECL games or prize money but I'll probably be there if you need me. ECL1 roster filler. An all-around amazing guy to have. Finnish/English speaking Neo-Lite teams hmu on discord / PSN markalla2 🤙

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All payments from installment 1 (50% Winter ’25) have been processed. If you don’t already see the money in your account, I believe it should arrive there on Monday at the latest. For efficiency purposes, some players will find that they have been paid in full as opposed to two 50% payments. If you’re unsure about anything regarding your payment, please feel free to reach out to me via private message or Discord.

hi @SportsGamer i got multiple posts removed from this thread for a couple of jokes & one of them contained a swear word (my bad, really really sorry). i've learned from my mistakes. as we all know, you tend to ban people based on face value and how good buddies u are to them. but this one time, when your integrity is being questioned, could you make an exception and remove all unnecessary/troll posts that don't add value to chat, even if they are from your buddies? i'll be waiting for your reply. br, paikallinen samu

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BAD HABITS (Core/Lite) We are looking for a forward (C/RW) and a defenseman, mainly an LD but if you're able to play with both right-handed and left-handed that's a plus! Also looking for goalies! Contact me or @Grizzly17 here or on Discord: Jaksii_ or grizzly17

Pelikirja (core) Looking for starting G, RD, RW/LW and a backup player. URGENT HIRING! Preferably Finnish🇫🇮 players, BUT due to the close proximity of the upcoming season players from other nationalities are fine as well. Locate and use the R2 button in your controller, be able to play 2-3 times a week and be a decent human being to talk with, we'll be just fine. Contact: Zysbe on DC or here.

Ban all abilities 6s aint designed to be played with abilities, only hut is

Community vote would've been the best way to decide these right?

Its obvious, you are trying and wanting to be part of the new league so you're just seeking for problems here. Now when they promized to pay their debts and published dates when their paying, suddenly paying in installmenta is a real issue now also.

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Ban them all, make a shitty game even a little bit better. - Variety on making builds (or at least they wont look the same as they have for the past 4 years). --> cant rock with 70ish wrist shot and quick release if you want to score - Eliminates some of the most ridiculous types of animations that help you retrieve the puck or get in a better position caused by traits, which cant be expected by the opposition --> game becomes less "rng" (more competitive), more realistic - there aint 6 superhumans running around the ice playing their own game --> team game, playing together matters, again more realistic For sure, this will result in a few "ea goals" as you have to find new ways to score instead of trusting the old traits which names have just been changed. Well they are bound to happen each year, as so many things before even getting to a scoring opportunity are caused by some random code (puck pickups, pass receptions...). One would most likely state that banning all traits will cause all teams to collapse in front of the net, well what changes? Teams are already doing that. As much of I hope ban them all which actually made those domestic leagues the most enjoyable part of the year, at least ban the warrior trait. Game loses all meaning when you hit skater having it, and they actually recover from the ground faster than you do from that animation -> breaks the game

This thread could double as a Turing test.