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  1. @MartindalexC and I talked about our points of disagreement on Skype yesterday. We actually agree up to the team value part. After that Connor would rather a committee of people judged what the impact of player movements on teams, basically giving those guys a power to directly judge who goes to what division. Is that better than an automatic system without any human bias? I'll let you all decide. And by all I mean whoever still bothers to read all this nerdy stuff...

    FYI, about that example of Gretzky on the worst team Connor used... I did the maths and as long as there are not too many divisions (keep in mind that it is likely that there will be less than 4 divisions) and not too many player movements (we're talking about most players on every team moving around, realistically it ain't happening) adding any one player has no impact on whether teams stay in their division or go higher or lower. So a division 1 team can safely hire that Gretzky guy and not fear getting moved to division 2 because of that. My system is even more robust that I thought. 

    But what if - and I don't mean to trash talk your design, because I'm very impressed with the amount of work you've put into it - but what if the best players from 8 teams in the 2nd division put together a team? 2nd division I guess, no matter what their skill?

    I don't actually question that now that I wrote it down, but I'll put this up for debate anyways. :)

    The hypothesis I had in mind was that most teams - even lower ranked teams - often have that one good player. I guess they should still earn their spot before they could all get to the first division no matter how many points they accumulated during the previous season.

    I guess the only major worry would be that a team can't pick up good players from the "minors" because their grade from the last season might way down their overall team grade. Then again it might help keep teams together, as the temptation for roster changes might be slightly reduced.

     

    Sorry, I'm rambling on, sort of answering my own questions. I hope they stir up some discussion nevertheless. :)

  2. Club looking for players:
    Name: Heroes of Our Time
    We are aiming for the top tier of teams and right now we are in need of more people on every position.

    We are a swedish club but are willing to test out people from Europe if you talk to us in skype.

    Feel free to contact me here or preferably on skype (robsom11) for a try-out or further information.

    http://heroesofourtime.wix.com/eashl

    Hi Robsom,

    Thank you for joining the site! Please feel free to create a team thread with this information, as that will also help generate interest towards your team!

  3. I'm very much interested in this division idea, but if we say division 1 only has 8 teams - that means 7 opponents. 16 games and then the best 4 go to the playoffs? That's semi-finals already. I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's very different from what the community is used to.

    I agree it's not optimal for teams to take breaks, but in some cases small teams might have 2-3 people that can't play for a specific amount of time and I think that's understandable. I'm not saying there needs to be a rule to allow that, but if divisions is the way we'd be heading, this is absolutely a thing that should've been discussed and agreed on up front.

    Are you guys saying that the bottom 3 teams should automatically be moved one division down and the top 3 moved up, or did you mean they'd match-up (#1 vs last spot, #2 vs second to last and #3 vs 3rd to last) in a best out of seven to compete for the spot? My personal opinion is that it should be determined through these teams facing each other. An alternative to what I described above, it could be a group of 6 teams where all meet each other and you see how they rank up after that. The downside is that it would theoretically allow teams to help other teams by losing on purpose towards certain opponents, once they've secured their own spot.

     

    Overall, I think this division thing is one that you either love or hate. It might be a bit complicated for some teams to digest. I think that it would definitely bring a lot of depth into the hockey simulation experience that we're trying to build.

    Please note that no concrete decisions have been made regarding the format of future leagues and we're just as excited as you to see where these brainstorms take us.
    I don't think it would be fair to start the ECL by placing teams in different divisions without giving everyone the chance to show us what they've got. Thus I think we should be using a more traditional approach for the first league and perhaps using the data we can collect from there to place teams into divisions for the next leagues (if that's what we agree is the best thing to do).

  4. (Insert Billy's example here)

    But if NOS (Or anything team that is clearly good enough to be in Div 1, not just NOS) do decide to leave for a season, they should be put in division 2 to absolutely smash teams? 

    I'd be down for a GB vs anyone else series but I don't think we'd be able to get a team together :ph34r:

    You're basically forcing people to play. It's not a good idea, man.

    Do not underestimate me. I can make an objective system with my ideas and I'll prove it to you with an example. The numbers I use are only based on ease of calculation.

     

    Hey guys, please note the great MultiQuote feature that we have here at the forums. You can click the +-icon next to the Quote button to pick a post to be multi-quoted: quote.jpg

    When you do, a message will appear in the lower right corner, and you can click it when you have selected the posts that you want to multi-quote.

    It's better to do that than replying to each quote separately.

  5. Have you discussed this problem among the staff? We all EASHL players know that this problem still exists. I know that this tournament is only in its early stages but me and probably many others are interested in your approach to this problem.

    I myself would like to suggest that you take this matter serious, because the lag is a game killer and it affects tremendously the teams performance who has the input lag.

    Just want to hear your thoughts and ideas!

    Hey @gendlik, nice to see you here!

    It has been briefly discussed. So far we have no solution, other than:

    1. Investigate the issue further throughout the community and share best-practice to minimise the lag for everyone.
    2. Hope EA fixes the issue.
    3. Hope the invite version of drop-in somehow works better.
    4. Have every team play an equal amount of home and away games and randomise which teams plays the first game at home.

    Any other ideas are welcome. :)

  6. Wow, I'm blown away by the quality of the discussion we are having here! Well done guys!

    @Billy44205: We will not call anyone TGMA at NHL Gamer and that was decided before your outburst. :)

     

    I will have to return to discuss this more once I can find the time, but here's the real question regarding the divisional system we are discussing here

    What will happen if a Division 1 team (or whichever level really) wants to take a break and not play for one season? Can skip one season? Will be dropped one division? Have to start over from the lowest division?

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