ECL '23 brings 1v1, bigger prizes and World Finals to the table - are you ready to ramp things up to the next level?

Any neo teams looking for a player?

Here is the math. Comments?

Edited November 15, 2022 by ChildishGerm8

We all understand there are costs related to website, organising stuff, events, staff for the ECL... I would be fine paying a license for a team and a increase on last years would be fair IMO.

I wholeheartedly disagree on paying a player's license. 20€ for some players that are back ups? Or have difficult work schedules? And that's only for this year's edition of ECL. 

This is going to be a big source of conflict. Leave it for ELITE and maybe PRO, for the rest of leagues makes absolutely no sense.

Edited November 15, 2022 by viktors89

How ungrateful some of you guys are here? 

I don't see why it is such a big deal for people to pay a small fee for a one year license. You have been given an opportunity for 5+ years to compete and challenge the best in the NHL for free to this date. SportsGamer was a hobby for the organizers, but due to increasing amount of work a hobby became a job. SportsGamer is a company that has employees, and organizing tournaments of this quality is a full time job, and the people who are organizing these tournaments have families to feed.

Don't buy two 24 packs of beer this weekend, and practice CHEL instead and there is your license. 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by lutuniemi

3 minutes ago, lutuniemi said:

How ungrateful some of you guys are here? 

I don't see why it is such a big deal for people to pay a small 40€ fee for a one year license. You have been given an opportunity for 5+ years to compete and challenge the best in the NHL for free to this date. SportsGamer was a hobby for the organizers, but due to increasing amount of work a hobby became a job. SportsGamer is a company that has employees, and organizing tournaments of this quality is a full time job, and the people who are organizing these tournaments have families to feed.

Don't buy two 24 packs of beer this weekend, and practice CHEL instead and there is your license. 

 

High paying job by the looks of it . 

12 minutes ago, lutuniemi said:

How ungrateful some of you guys are here? 

I don't see why it is such a big deal for people to pay a small fee for a one year license. You have been given an opportunity for 5+ years to compete and challenge the best in the NHL for free to this date. SportsGamer was a hobby for the organizers, but due to increasing amount of work a hobby became a job. SportsGamer is a company that has employees, and organizing tournaments of this quality is a full time job, and the people who are organizing these tournaments have families to feed.

Don't buy two 24 packs of beer this weekend, and practice CHEL instead and there is your license. 

 

I'll rather have the beers

I can understand if Lite and above is a fee, but CORE and NEO I can't understand. It was fun to play these tournaments.

Edited November 15, 2022 by T33J11

34 minuter sedan, tkantola säger:

yes + sponsors. Thats funds is only from community players

 

+ 1v1 players 20€ license fee!!

+ neo players license fee!!

So. 

▪ 300 teams x 8 players 

= 2400 players.

▪ 2400 players x 20€ 

= 48.000€ For the 6vs6/1vs1 licenses.

😰😰😰😰😰

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Wow! That was a Stone Cold move!🥊🥊Sportsgamer vs Community 

15 minuuttia sitten, iSvamp kirjoitti:

So. 

▪ 300 teams x 8 players 

= 2400 players.

▪ 2400 players x 20€ 

= 48.000€ For the 6vs6/1vs1 licenses.

😰😰😰😰😰

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1v1 and 6v6 licenses for person are the same, so not like 20e for playing in 1v1 and another 20e for playing in 6v6, but just 20e and can participate in both. On top of my math is then just the players who play only 1v1.

56 minutes ago, viktors89 said:

We all understand there are costs related to website, organising stuff, events, staff for the ECL... I would be fine paying a license for a team and a increase on last years would be fair IMO.

I wholeheartedly disagree on paying a player's license. 20€ for some players that are back ups? Or have difficult work schedules? And that's only for the first ECL. 

This is going to be a big source of conflict. Leave it for ELITE and maybe PRO, for the rest of leagues makes absolutely no sense.

Ye, fine to pay but not how it is now. Always rescheduling problems and rules that are not followed.

38 minutes ago, Tauri said:

Ye, fine to pay but not how it is now. Always rescheduling problems and rules that are not followed.

Paying a fee as a player and later not being able to play because of reschedule, just one of the cases where license will be a conflict.

When you pay something you are entitled to enjoy it. It will be a problem.

Edited November 15, 2022 by viktors89

1 timme sedan, ChildishGerm8 säger:

1v1 and 6v6 licenses for person are the same, so not like 20e for playing in 1v1 and another 20e for playing in 6v6, but just 20e and can participate in both. On top of my math is then just the players who play only 1v1.

I said nothing about 20€ each in my example. 

For all the Lite/Core guys next year when you watch yanks come over to play in World Finals at least you can get some sense of accomplishment knowing you paid for those flights and 5* hotels. 

Bye sportsgamer, new life will certainly find an opportunity to grow from the ashes.

46 minuuttia sitten, iSvamp kirjoitti:

I said nothing about 20€ each in my example. 

Just wondering why you did same math as in my post.... Nevermind then 😂

Thank god they decided to play ECL on PS5. Would have been a pretty big investment just to get to participate in it playing a shitty game that's always broken somehow. 570€ console minimum, 40€ game, 20€ player license + core license.

Thanks for the games, this decision was easy.

5 tuntia sitten, JakePlay77 kirjoitti:

There is not schedule and rulebook for 1vs1 tournament? Are they added here later? Is 1vs1 in HUT or online versus? Most of the info was about 6vs6 tournaments so I assume you add more info on 1vs1 later.

In online versus

16 minuter sedan, ChildishGerm8 säger:

Just wondering why you did same math as in my post.... Nevermind then 😂

Cuz who the fuck understands finnish outside of Finland? 😂 

I don`t have the time to play atm bc of work related stuff, have been pretty much on a brake for more than 6 months. 

I don`t agree with neo nor core fees. Guys are playing for fun and/or are new to the scene, not necessarily competitive mindset at all. Same goes 30-50% of lite teams. So…

But at the same time I think: 

There is no free lunch in the table. 
- Servers cost money, maintenance cost money, platform develepment…everything costs money. Hours Kenu has put in this for free of charge is mindblowing. 
So I more than understand. 

We have enjoyed ECL for no cost, same goes to NHLGamer/Sportsgamer for years, but there are people who has done the work behind the scenes. 
So everyone is ofc free to try to do the same and put only the hours in. How many of members are actually ready to do that?

I`d guess Kenu has done thousands of hours to ours behalf. And ofc all the volunteers also. And no, I`m not one of them, don`t have the time to put effort in it. 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Oicteppotulppu

It would be awesome if all teams (at least neo/core/lite) signed up for neo, just to see how Moneygamer reacts. 
 

10-20 euro in a fee would be okay. Maybe 80 % for prize money in the divison you play in and 20% to Moneygamer.

1 minut sedan, Oicteppotulppu säger:

I don`t have the time to play atm, have been pretty much on a brake for more than 6 months. 
 

I don`t agree with neo nor core fees. Guys are playing for fun and/or are new to the scene, not necessarily competitive mindset at all. Same goes 30-50% of lite teams. So…
 

But at the same time I think: 

There is no free lunch in the table. 
Servers cost money, maintenance cost money, everything costs money. Hours Kenu has put in this for free of charge is mindblowing. 
So I more than understand. 
 

We have enjoyed ECL for no cost, same goes to NHLGamer for years, but there are people who has done the work behind the scenes. 
So everyone is ofc free to try to do the same and put only the hours in. How many of members are actually ready to do that?

I`d guess Kenu has done thousands of hours to ours behalf. And ofc all the volunteers also. And no, I`m not one of them, don`t have the time to put effort in it. 
 

 

I don’t think 90% would disagree on paying a small fee. But 45 euro is way too much.

3 tuntia sitten, el_tacobag kirjoitti:

I'll rather have the beers

What a snipe. 🫶

Diizzylicious…

yeah maybe. 
At the same time (not related to that what I wrote) 45€ is 45€. You drink 5 beers in some of Helsinki Centrum`s  nightclub`s, and 45€ Is gone. 

But now when I`m thinking, the problem what I see is what was written earlier. Core and Lite collects the money, but the prizepools in those respective divisions are much smaller compared to Pro and Elite. 
So that is for me bit unfair. 
It doesn’t go like that in real world leagues either. Division 3 and 4 are not paying Top-leagues salary. 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Oicteppotulppu

"are you ready to ramp things up to the next level?"

and by that we mean pay us alot of money for the same experience 🥳

 

I think its a good thing, even though price Pool should be updated in a direction that mid-table Elite Teams also have something to play for not only top 4 Teams. Like now we pay 1.000€ + Player licence for two seasons without having a chance at getting something back, when we could just go to Pro Div and fight for the win/money with less pay in.

As Captain of Inter Iceland (Former Geekz Energy eSports) we will play this upcoming ECL PRO, but it would be fine, if our earnig from last ECL Spring /Playoffs Round 1  ~ 210 € are here! I payed last year all from my side, and this year myb aswell, i don't the money so much, i have a good Private Life, but its not professionell to wait a half year for our earnig! And now i have to pay 560€, but still wait for my 210 €? 

Don't get me wrong, we like to play ECL, especially its the only Chance as a Team from Mittle Europe to play against the north, but if u have a prizepool, dont let the guys wait for their cashout!

 

Kind regards josh 

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by PLA77NER

Every guy who writing here please tell me What you can do without paying it? That just normal, everything you wanna do In your Free time cost and everything cost so much More than this…. So take you head out off ass please😴 

7 minuter sedan, Frans-Fin säger:

Every guy who writing here please tell me What you can do without paying it? That just normal, everything you wanna do In your Free time cost and everything cost so much More than this…. So take you head out off ass please😴 

Bullshit. Caps Gaming is for free.