MartindalexC

No, if an elite team disbands and reforms they would be placed in pro. And yes they should be, since they are better than the best lite teams, sorry but it's true. If the lite team got promotion, they would get promoted, if not, then you can't complain that an ex-elite team takes a vacancy NOT filled by regular promotion. Small core? Dude I have no idea what you're trying to get at? Since the context of my post was that they'd lose their place in the top division by reforming, something that is in the rules right now anyway and won't be affected by the proposed rule change.

What? No, that's not related to this in anyway in regards to the money involvement. The players would lose their spot in the top division though? I don't see your point since they'd be relegated into pro, so then one team from pro would be promoted. Again, what? I will say it certainly feels like there's a mentality of 'yes-men' here but I've said that before. I don't think people are 'bullying' admins or anything like that if I read your message correctly.

You have to realise however that by increasing elite to 22 teams, all the actual 'good' teams from pro will be there instead of, well, pro. Thereby increasing the skill difference between playoff bound teams in elite and any respective team from pro. Plus you still aren't compensating for the fact that the pro (and lite) team had a much easier time getting to the playoffs than any of the elite teams did. Look I get what you're trying to do but as I've said previously, making it so that teams below elite can make it to the 'real' playoffs is just insulting to elite teams that didn't make said playoffs, plus it's completely pointless because it's nulifying the whole point of a division system, to keep teams segregated until they've proven that they can hang with the group higher than them. Finally, I'm just gonna say that it shouldn't be possible during normal league play for every single team to be able to win the 'cup'. If however there was a once a year tournament where there was a proper seeding and round robin / swiss system and all that jazz then sure, but yea, as much as I would like that, it ain't happening because of this random ass division system.

Let's take a look at csgo. Team that is top 30 in the world decides to join a new org and make a new team -> Event organisers realise they can't throw this new team in the lower divisions because it's a waste of time and will only serve to annoy people -> Ergo they place the new team in invite leagues and things above 'open'. Translated, a new team would be able to play in Pro because they're clearly good enough to play in it. Lite should be there for brand spanking new teams that have new players that don't have a proven skill level. "Fastlane" for pro is only there for proven teams and players, not new ones. Plus lite is at the beginner level as others have wrote, such a league is neccessary and is prevalent across many games and e-sports, you want to complain about it, fine, but you can't argue that it'll 'close the community' as that's just plain wrong.

You misunderstand me, I wasn't advocating for pro teams to be able to play in the elite playoffs. Based on your example a pro team would make the playoffs over elite teams, despite it not being clear whether they're even better than the elite team(s) they're replacing, plus they'd have had a much easier path into the playoffs than said elite team(s). Sure this is a 'community' that likes to compete, but there's a difference between being irrational and logical. Elite is called elite for a reason, thusly the elite playoffs is quite literally, the 'elite of the elite', sure you have to actually get promoted to elite before being able to play but that's fine imo. Sure, I get it people want to be inclusive and make this a happy place league where "everyone can win" but come on now, pro teams making the playoffs in place of elite teams is lunacy.

@Peacerich_se In terms of skill I wouldn't rule out lower elite teams being close in skill to top pro teams, truth be told the skill discrepancy between the 'top of elite' and the lower end is pretty damn large as is anyway. That said however, the difference between any 'top' lite teams and any elite teams is so huge I would even venture to say the elite team could start 0-3 down and still win. As for the pro teams the skill gap is of course not as insane, but at the end of the day they're playing in pro to get promoted to elite, why should they have more access to elite playoffs then actual elite teams? You say that the best teams in lite (atleast a few) would be better than lower elite teams, sorry but that's just wrong. No offence to Hawks Hockey Club / Old Farts / Dynamo Danglers / Dead End Kings but I think even they could tell you that they wouldn't stand a chance in elite playoffs. Pro division, there's an argument to be had for sure, but it's still a little silly that a pro team could face lesser skilled opponents to make the playoffs than an actual elite team would. And sorry but if having to be in elite to win the cup annoys you then there's an easy remedy for that... get good enough to play in elite, it's pretty simple.

So based on the poll, people are voting for scenarios like this to happen: Elite team disbands -> Players form new team with majority from elite -> Get placed in lite and absolutely destroy teams down there -> GG everyone

We're (Northern Ascendancy) still searching for people to play defence [starting pos]. If you are interested and you feel you can play in elite please message me here or on psn (usernames are the same in both locations).

Electronic game ≠ Esport, especially one as insanely arcade-y as three vs threes. EASHL 6s struggles with a myriad of issues as is, threes (assuming we're talking about the threes mode and not eashl 3s) in my mind will be no different. Plus I highly doubt more people are interested in seeing some over the top cheesey gameplay as opposed to actual 6s games, but I've been wrong before.

The stickhandling makes me feel like I got a lobotomy over the summer.

https://www.twitch.tv/martindalexc Northern Ascendancy, will stream all ECL games at the very least.

Also you should take note of the refresh rate. The Acer Predator has 144hz which is good for competitive games such as CS and shit where you will often have more than 200 fps, you will however get zero benefit from it if you just use the screen for PS4 gaming since the fps never goes higher than 60. So I'd save the money and go for a low input lag 4k 60hz screen.

Northern Ascendancy ECL Elite 'Confirmed' players so far, maybe more to come, who knows Gzell60, D (Germany's Finest) Playmaker1010, F (Germany's Finest) Poliskontroll, G (Synergy) New logo coming soon...

You shouldn't have to concentrate on what people are saying in a podcast I'd argue.

Mine can receive messages I think

Inbox is full

- "PS: We're working on improving the technical quality of the series in the future." The background music level is perhaps a touch too loud. Alpha_furyan also has quite a bit of an echo.

? pls no chatbox comments here omg did you not read foppas post???1?

Yes please admin take these posts away, they are infringing upon my team's personal space and are too chat boxy, help, BotAllu is scary Oh wait, I'm not 12

>Goosebumps >Pajen Pick one (/s)

Top 5 all positions... C: Anton, n/a, Playmaker1010, Windblad, My Gran LW: I'll be humble, Me, Playmaker1010, Gretzky RW: Playmaker101010, Anton on vodka, Svamp LD: Gzell, Playmaker1010, Budget Boy RD: Gzell, Blake, Rob, Aina G: Poliskontroll, Pleemaker, Bjono

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No Polis love...

The spots available (LD / RD) are ofc starting positions so ECL time is guaranteed!