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4 tuntia sitten, vSilenttio kirjoitti:
I get what you're saying but the time to create new Elite team would not be "1-2 months", it would take more like 3-4 months with only two ECL seasons per year. Nobody would like/enjoy to play the whole year of ECL if they would play first in "Semi" level where you face current Lite teams who are just "not there" with current Elite teams. If you qualify from there to Pro, you'd play another two months but the teams would be little better that time of course. With two ECL seasons this road to Elite thing would take atleast 12 months from a single team, if they would start from "Semi" or Lite in the current system.
Right now the NHL as an esport isn't that big yet that we should slow down the better teams from stepping up. Obviously this isn't that big problem as we've seen how majority of the teams has found their place thanks to the divisions, and because it's pretty easy to take over some old Pro (even Elite) team, which is good thing in my opinion. Why? The players and the management change in the real life too, so it would be stupid to require same guys to be core of certain teams only because of they has played there first. I'm talking about cases where the team roster has faced big update.
But yeah, like I said, this would probably not be the biggest problem anyways so lets just bring the 4 in.
Yeah, but i mean that now it is 1-2 month, because it is possible to start in PRO and play that 2 month and then you have Elite team. I like it a bit more that existing PRO and ELITE teams would get stronger fe. the way you mentioned.
35 minuuttia sitten, Mikka kirjoitti:An additional division is absolutely needed and would be better for everyone. Also ECL 3x in a year would be the best imo, you could grind from Semi-Pro to Elite in one NHL title if you've got the skill.. A shorter offseason would probably result in steadier rosters too
I agree, 3 ECL season / NHLXX would be good. There isnt any reasons why NG should tie ECL to calendar years.
I think it would be cool if tournaments were something like:
ECL1
ECL2
ECL3
RCL, GCL, FCL, SCL ( is it possible to do all at the same time?)
Summerup
And if RCL and GCL need to have their own tournaments around year then they can.. But it would be cool if at least FCL and SCL is about same time.
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Is it really necessary to be able to create new Elite teams just like that in a 1-2 month? I would like to see path to become an Elite team to be longer. It would increase the value of Elite / Pro teams and the hours that GMs give to build their team. And if its harder to raise a team to Elite level, Elite / Pro managers have better free agents available to sign.
I think that very skilled new teams should start in Semi-Pro... But this question among many other is something NG staff need to think about.
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There was some talk of this topic at the end of last year. I and many others think that there is too many teams in ECL for just 3 divisions. Huge number of Lite teams causes too short regular season and too long play-offs. And not to forget huge cap on skill level as well.
I personally think that NHL Gamer should not waste any more time on this decision. It should be made before ECL9.
Time is short. Please be fast to share your opinion on this case and also remember to vote.
I think there should be 4 divisions
ECL ELITE (16 teams)
ECL PRO (32 teams)
ECL SEMI PRO (32 teams)
ECL LITE (rest of the teams)
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Free rd rw for FCL...can play other positions too. Back-up role is also ok.
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33 years old Finnish Dude looking for new challenges as RD. NHL19 i played most as RW, but i have played almost half of my NG games as RD.
I am not sure how much am i willing / able to play at summer time. But i am ready for some tryouts and getting to know some new dudes.
I rather play early than late. So no teams that always start to play 21CET or later...
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Ohoy Free agents! Spring League boat has sailed away. Transfer deadline is past.
Time to call to The Dudes and find a new home for upcoming tournaments and off season. RD, C and G are most wanted.
Call me here or PSN ahonaattori
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On 27.4.2019 at 12.32, Peksi22 kirjoitti:
Looking for players
The Dudes have made a decision not to play in Spring League.
We are now starting to prepare to off-season and want to be playing all summer long at least some good 6vs6 games. Because of this, we are looking for more players in our team.
- Looking for Finnish players on all positions
- More active you are the better...
- Its ok if you are looking for a team just for off-season, but please tell it to us because this off-season is also a try-out/training camp to our future ECL roster
- Everyone are welcome for try out and you don`t have to be a superstar to get to play with us and have fun. So if you are new player who wants to get to know 6vs6 scene you are welcome.
And last but not least.. we are easy going group of adults... We hope that you are also a positive Dude...at least on Finnish standards....
Our team management is on holiday 27.4-5..2019.Answering to contacts may take some time, please be patient.
Contact here @Peksi22 OR PSN peksi22
Up up!!!
Try-outs start tomorrow 18:00 cet and continue next week. If you you are looking for play mates, sign-up now!
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Hide and show game clock and scoreboard with some button compination.
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Remove 3vs3 and maybe also 1vs1vs1. There is not enough EASHL players for many game modes... So focus on 6vs6.
Remove outdoor hockey mode... And replace it whit drop-in mode where gameplay is same as it is in club games.
Pring in practice mode in eashl...for 1-12 players cpu or human.
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Great work by DNA and community! I think DNA was really fast fixing this after they were contacted the way that they could see that there really is problem effecting a larger group of customers.
Maybe fixing this has improved connections for DNA users and others too.
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2 tuntia sitten, The_Alpha_Furyan kirjoitti:
Is the process to change ISP complicated in Finland? Genuine question as I am curious.
In Sweden it is usually (depending on circumstances of course) quite easy and can be accomplished in the span of a few days, if not quicker.
No it is not easy...some times its even impossible. I think over half of people live in smaller towns where there really is just one choise for ISP. Fe. I have to pay 55€/month for 20/1 DNA ADSL and i really dont have any other choise for solid connection.
4G connections work somehow almost everywhere, but at many places they are just too slow for playing.
And don`t forget long term contracts. Most of the connections are sold as 1-2 year contracts.
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2 tuntia sitten, itspardytime kirjoitti:
Your comment tells me a lot about you as a person. You truly don’t understand why we seek a game? And if you don’t understand that was only rhetorical question.
We have played only few evenings during this problem (because we have 3 "DNA players")but when we play we managed to get atleast 2-3 games/evening which is better than nothing. Its frustrating (for all of us) and that’s why I have tried to help solving this problem and tried to activate others but some of you rather be a loudmouth - its not suprising. I knew that my message might activate some morons but also I hope that it activates some smart ones too. I hope you and your followers could use few minutes of your precious time and help this genre via the link https://tuki.dna.fi/org/dna-fi/d/dna-laajakaista-ja-nhl19/ , thanks. Meanwhile if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
Everyone ofcourse does what they feel like... In my small team of 6 skater and 2 goalie, 4 skater had / has DNA. After few days of DR error rumba, we made decision of play not more than 1 DNA Dude per game. That way we managed to get some games, but still i believe we didn`t have fun sitting in waiting simulator. And worse part of it was that we ruined gaming experience for many teams by causing DR errors. That is why we don`t play with DNA anymore. Dudes play with phone hotspot and other 4G connections... it is laggy, kind of sux, and everyone feels like a dork of paying once again extra to get to play this silly game. But at least we dont cause DR errors to others anymore and everyone has more fun.
I get it that we nhl addicts have to get to play... but i don`t wonder why many get angry to you if you are causing something like 20 DR errors / night... If all teams would do the same... game nights would be "interesting".
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2 minuuttia sitten, Huuru kirjoitti:
That's for sure because the opponent team has DNA players.
Yes, but now that our players have changed their ISP we get to games with very high %... like 90% of searches. When we had 1 DNA we got error about 4/5 and about 99% of error came against Finnish opponents. When there was no Finnish players against we got to game mabe 80% of searches.
And when we had 2 or more DNA user in 6vs6 we got error about 20/20
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Hmmmm... no option "Yes, and me and/or my teammates don`t have DNA." Its quite bad that it is missing.... i would do new poll
Do you / your team mates have DNA?
How often do you / your team mates get DR error?
How often some opponent player gets dropped on game launch?
How often you/your team had these kind or problems before latest PS4 system update.
What is your country?
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The Dudes looking for RD
- No DNA as ISP!!!
Contact me here or PSN ahonaattori
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The Dudes looking for new players because DNA crisis.
- Positions: LW/C, RD, G
- Language Finnish
- No DNA as ISP!!!
We hope you are easy going dude who like to move puck fast and just have fun playing.
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On 26.2.2019 at 08.59, Oicteppotulppu kirjoitti:
Old 23-26ms (46-52ms)
New 1: 5ms (10ms)
New 2: 10ms
Place: Espoo, South Finland
one thing is weard..
Occasionally I notice in accordance with ping you are connected to the ”old server”...even though both teams are from Finland
Past 4 nights we have played 95% of our games on old server and connection has been so bad. Have others finns / swedes have this same problem lately?
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Having connection problems on a day that EA publishes some updates would not be the first time... My games were normal yesterday...didn`t see any difference.
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OLD: 22ms-26mS
NEW: 7ms
Pori, Finland.
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The Dudes looking for goalie. Transfer deadline for Lite is tonight so be fast!!
Playtime guaranteed... maybe even tonight
Contact me here or psn ahonaattori
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2 tuntia sitten, Kenu kirjoitti:
Since it came up with my above reply, In regards to ECL 9 being played on NHL 20, I guess it's good to mention that we are looking at other alternatives for playing NHL 19 after the ECL 8 season. Playing for the European Championship more than once a year per game (ECL 8 = 2019 champion in NHL 19) would lessen the value of the championship in my opinion, so we're looking at other things for players to play outside of the two ECL seasons we're able to provide during the NHL 19 lifespan.
Heh, i didn`t even realize that it has been 1 ECL season / NHL / YEAR
And good to know you are looking for new ways to keep us entertained 🤜
I think that easiest way would be simply making next ECL season longer. Fe. double the regular season. But i don`t know is it smart to do with so short notice... or what would be common opinion of the community in this case. But what ever you do, it would be nice if tournament could be played with these Lite teams, so it would create more continuity. Or maybe you could make a longer summer cup and split it to fe. PRO+ELITE players to one group and rest of the players to another.
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11 minuuttia sitten, Kenu kirjoitti:
Thanks for all the input.
I would like to point out that the top 8 in Lite have been prioritised over any new teams, no matter what the roster of new teams.
My personal belief is that these picks have been quite successful in the past seasons, but please feel free to provide your feedback on this as well.
I would also like to know how many feel like there is a need for a 4th division and how many would volunteer in playing in that division.
Ok. I think you have done good job in promoting teams... no complaints by me. Thanks for the interesting info, i was not aware of that. I thought that you look at the big picture when replacing teams in PRO. So fe. if some of Northern Ascendacy and Radical players would start a new club, you would rather fill empty spot in PRO with 8th ranking Lite team than the club of these experienced Elite players? Thats ok, sounds kind of fair
and sure its not a common situation.
I am not sure how you should split Lite to new Lite and lower level league at the first time... or how should teams be promoted between leagues. I am sure you or we could figure out some kind of system for it. Me and my team could start in lowest division if it looks that we should... maybe that would be a hit for some teams to get dropped to lower level, but most of the teams would be ok with it. They would get to have more games(maybe?) and more of them against about same level opponents.. Its nothing but win win to everything else except EGO
I think that at the end we would have more valuable Elite(longer to climb up on divisions) and more really competitive league games from improved Lite(maybe a big punch of those bench warmers in PRO would be willing to play in Lite).
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Thanks for good posts and ideas... Discussion is what helps admins create better, more suitable product for all parties.
On 25.12.2018 at 01.05, KepakkoFIN kirjoitti:I don’t have any good ideas how to solve this ”problem” but i can share my opinion about Lite division.
I have played In Lite two seasons. At season 4 we had 30 games regular season and i really loved it. Sure that time there was only 31 team in Lite but i really felt like Lite division was competitive. At season 6 we were relegated from Pro to Lite. I got to admit that i didn’t have any interest to play in Lite because i felt that regular season wasn’t competitive enough. Regular season didn’t mean almost anything and there was too much playoffs games. Let’s crunch some numbers. If you play every regular season game and playoffs games to game sevens: You’ll play 18 regular season games and 42 playoffs games. Something has to be done to these numbers in my opinion.
I know that there is alot Lite teams which want to play really competitive games and wants to get to Pro division. But there is also teams who doesn’t want to be promoted to Pro but doesn’t want to play only normal club games.
Just an wild idea: Lite should be NHLGamers third competitive division. Cut the number of teams to ~30 and make one lower division to teams who wants to play only for fun. Lites bottom 8 will play relegation games against ”casual division” top-8 and boom. Lites regular season has meaning again and you have more games. This is just an idea so don’t judge me
I think this is a great idea and a i have also been thinking about it. Honestly, i was first going to write a post something like "What would your perfect ECL be like". And big part of that post would have been creating a new division under Lite and restrict number of Lite teams to fe. 32 teams. But then i thought it is a thing that we cant change before ECL8 and i wanted to focus discussion to number of games being played in Lite.
On 25.12.2018 at 05.39, MysterMistery kirjoitti:I liked this message (and also agree with OP), but I don't really agree with the last idea
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Yes, regular season in Lite should have more games in it (if or when it has the most teams playing, after all). 26 or 30 games in regular season is good I think. Then just cut down the number of teams getting into playoffs if you have to, or create some fancy creative qualifier rounds for playffos for those teams that are in the bubble (to make games more meaningful for them).
Furthermore, regular season success within your own division should matter more (and this is where my own opinion/experience comes more to live, since my team somewhat suffered from this in ECL7). If you end up in a division that is very competitive in regular season (just look at the point percentages per game, not anything else), you don't get good seedings in the playoffs. And yes, I understand that you have to be able to win any team to win it all, but still as we are now, regular season in Lite doesn't matter much at all.
Personally, I loved the last season of ECL Lite because the division in regular season that our team played, was in my opinion the most competitive/fair in a long time in Lite. The level of skill for most teams against were roughly the same, so you had to earn every goal, win and point in the standings. But the chance to end up into that kind of division in the next ECL is probably pretty slim.
And that is all I'm after in EASHL (&ECL's): Meaningful and hard-fought tight 6-vs-6 games, not blowout losses or easy wins.
Yeah agree, it was a fun regular season! Super tight group! I think, that if some of the teams would have played in different group, there may have been one or few teams in a top 4... But now, The Black Jacks murdered 3 of our groups teams...
On 25.12.2018 at 12.54, PSchibra kirjoitti:It's not a terrible idea, but I think that if there were 4 divisions, it would suck if you were a really good team and had to start in the ''wood'' division, but then you would have to wait until the next NHL game if you want to get to Pro division. + I'm not an expert, but, from what I've seen, the number of teams that "don't want to be promoted to pro" is really little. ECL should always be competitive and a 4th division would be kinda pointless imo. If people want to play competitive and casual at the same time, there should be a different tournament taking place parallel to ECL (like the Magic cup).
Also, this level of competitiveness and equality among teams, I think, is almost impossible to achieve for Lite, because every season you get a few teams in Lite that don't know how to skate/shoot/pass and some that could even play with the big boys up in Elite.
I think that league admins have every season raised some new team(s) straight to PRO by just looking at their roster. I think that it has not really been a big problem and with 4 division system it would be even less... because now league admins would have 2 options of which division to place a new team... Or even if all new teams would have to start in Lite, the division would be way tougher than what it is now. But yeah of course it would be too easy for Elite level teams... probably they should just be promoted straight to PRO. But even if not...
at least it would raise the value of Elite and PRO divisions... Maybe we would see even less of teams falling apart in those two great divisions and i think it would raise brand value of ECL.
Yeah sure equality is hard to achieve in Leagues with 30+ teams... It is hard to achieve even in Elite where is 16 teams. I think is there is a huge difference between bottom4 and top4 teams in Elite as well.
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The Dudes looking for 1 Finnish backup skater and backup goalie. We play Monday-Thursday 19-20:00 cet ->...+ some on other days too.
We are easy going adults willing to improve personal and team play. So i hope you somehow fit to that description.
Contact me here or even better PSN ahonaattori
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How many ECL divisions should there be?
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I have no idea what the fact that some team don`t have time to grind from PRO to ELITE has to do with should or should us not change the current ECL system.
And BTW i think Vesa Pompa did not even raise from Lite to Pro on their first season. Their name in ECL7 was Lehmannen Badboyz...or something like that. I think it was very must justified that they started in Lite.