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Experienced Finnish RD looking for club ELITE/PRO. Can also play LD but it takes some time to adapt.
Contact me DM or PSN ahonaattorii
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50 minuuttia sitten, Coold kirjoitti:
PS has always been heavily favoured by europeans and i'm pretty sure that won't change when the new consoles come out, just because of that ECL and other stuff should be played on the PS5.
This is a good point. But the fact is that this is a competitive virtual hockey community. I think the goal is not to get every european to be a member.
Quality of the product is a big factor on this competitive part of gaming on my opinnion. And reliability is big part of that. Tens of minutes breaks in broadcasts because someone drops out is not good. And whole prodcasts being cancelled because guys cant log in is even worse.
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1 tunti sitten, rrr41rrr kirjoitti:
I really hope the EU community will be based on PS5, i can't imagine buying an Xbox...🤮
I am tempted to see if there would be less lag, down time and other BS at xbox.
Psn have done so bad work that i believe xbox cant do worse.
That is why my vote is for xbox. I will buy the one ecl is played with.
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I buy the one ECL is played on.
I have heard stories of xbox beeing more stable than ps. PS has errors and all kind of shit all the time.
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11 minuuttia sitten, PleeMaker kirjoitti:
I’m really sorry but I just don’t get this.. How would any point system make 6th seed team better than now? 3p system and EABUNKA would have hands like Penatski and IQ like Dominointi?
Oho i looks like i deleted one chapter there :DDD
It doesnt make anyone better. But i believe that in the near future we will have more cup candidates that 2 or 3 and Elite will be tighter on what it comes to top8. And then the meaning of spot on regular season would not be so huge.
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Well it is quite simple, If you boys really try you can get it. Just try to think about it. If 3rd and for example 6th team closer on same level, it does not matter as much what team you face on semis or quarts.
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6 minuuttia sitten, PleeMaker kirjoitti:
What? How does 3p system change this or did I miss something?
It doesn`t change it. But if some teams have to play with shit in their pants with current system because so scared of losing single point or two on regular season, it may have an effect on that. Because value of are you first or second on regular season would not be so big.
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9 minuuttia sitten, MartindalexC kirjoitti:
Also, maybe tone down on the whole sexist overtones.
Tone down? Oh man you are such an adult.
1 tunti sitten, tbnantti kirjoitti:Winning the regular season massively improves your chances of winning the title.
I hope this will change a bit in tournaments to come. I hope we will see more teams that have a shot to win the cup.... just like in real hockey.
37 minuuttia sitten, tbnantti kirjoitti:Oh and another thing, what would be even more stupid is that with the 3-point system a team could go through the regular season unbeaten and not finish first. 🤕
And another thing is that with current system a team could go trough whole regular season by losing every game and still win a cup.
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3 minuuttia sitten, Lauri kirjoitti:
Currently seeding #1 after regular season is such a huge bonus for those 3 teams racing for it
Yeah it is. But who outside of those 3 teams thinks that this is a good thing? Not majority of viewers or players is my guess.
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2 minuuttia sitten, PleeMaker kirjoitti:
Well those single points would probably decide regular season winner, I don’t think it should be like that.
You don`t get nothing of winning regular season. But i get it if price money is only motivation to play and your team is among those 2-3 teams that can win with this system.
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27 minuuttia sitten, FlyerKungen kirjoitti:
I'm glad it's Elite teams, players & captains who can decide how things work in Elite. At least with this current meta & gameplay, you just need to play one season in Elite & you will understand why three point system wouldn't work. But you can use that in Pro, Lite & Neo, I don't mind.
As Eki said, games are too short & as Juizki said, game is not competitive enough to support 3p system at least in Elite. And tbh, the difference is quite huuuuuuuge! 3p system is not a saviour which reveals that Elite is really more even league, it would only take points away from unlucky teams, which didn't manage to score before game went to overtime. We all know how this game works. Better idea is to cut 4 teams away from Elite, if you wanna make it look more even.
2p system is not perfect, but 3p system is not solution. If people thinks Ghetto is full of criminals because of OT fights, then we should probably talk about giving 0 points from OT losses in future, but idk if Elite players want that. I don't know if I would support that either. Probably not. We just need EA to make better game, not new point system.
Peace.
Can you please tell me. Why are you guys sooooo afraid of losing those single points every now and then? It is not the end of the world. And because game really is only 12 minutes long, it is "easy" to play that delaying game. Do we really want to courage teams to do it this much that we give them half points of what team would get from 10-0 win?
I also think that difference could be huge. And from viewer(customer???) point os view, i don`t think that would be a bad thing. And if we want to take this sport to a more "serious" direction, we should watch things more from viewers point of view.
E: And i took a quick look. There is also elite players who have voted for European point counting system. So i would not be so sure what would the result of vote be, if elite captains would vote for this.
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10 minuuttia sitten, KepakkoFIN kirjoitti:
With 3-2-1-0 point system Elite standings doesn't look that different. Everyone just has bit more points and some spots has changed.
6. Kova 8-2-2-9 32pts
7. FBK 7-2-3-10 28pts
8. Roots 7-2-3-8 28pts
9. BPH 5-5-2-10 27pts
10. GFB 5-1-10-6 27pts
11. Gotham 6-1-5-10 25pts
12. Luleå 6-1-5-10 25pts
13. SJ 5-4-2-11 25pts
14. Checkmate 1-7-2-10 19pts
15. Pompa 5-1-0-12 17pts
16. AF 4-1-2-15 16pts(There can some mistakes)
Yeah thats true... i checked AF and Ghetto games and there was 1 point bigger difference. But when there is 50% more points for win i think difference is relatively smaller.
GFB have only one OT win, if i remember it right. That means that on that part you have not gained any edge.
Still to me that standings looks a bit better. At least those top teams would have lost some points. It so fking stupid that on this point of season some team have lost only ONE POINT :DDD With European point system they would have lost 6 points. On my eye that would tell a bit more that the difference between these teams is not quite sooooooo huge.
But to me this is more about ideological stuff than something that you can see from standings. The difference between Hockey Dudes and Football ladies is that hockey Dudes are alla about scoring, kicking ass of opponent and they fight all in for the win. Football ladies are more "lets hope that we don`t lose this one" and everyone have fun...and omg do everything so opponent cant score... then those ladies throw high fives after a nice 0-0 tie.
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I my self am surprised of how tight this poll. I don`t think NG will do any changes with these results so we have to wait for more people to realize whats wrong with current system.
No offence to Ghetto Firebirds at all.. Great team and specially @Jeresti rox!!! But still, i must mention that look at the Elite standings now... it looks like some lame ass football standings. GF is ahead of teams that have won 50% more than GF. GF is just above playoff line, with one win more than league bottom Almost Famous.
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On 23.4.2020 at 13.25, Juizki kirjoitti:
I assume you mean the "stealing singular points" part? I don't mean underdogs would be stealing points as in gaining that 1 point for going to OT, but that they'd steal points from the odds on favorite teams' point totals (the better team would lose 1 point just because they got dragged to OT). Imagine one of the top elite teams, for example, who have to face these "park the bus" plays on quite a regular basis and how much it would affect their point totals during one season. Of course this applies to every team that's better on paper than their opponents, but it would hit most dramatically on the best ones.
Aah ok, now i get it.
I my self don`t see it as bad thing. I mean if top teams lose few points more. Recent seasons there has been about two teams that lose something like 2-4 points on a whole season. To me that actually seems kind of stupid/boring.
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36 minuuttia sitten, Juizki kirjoitti:
With the game being as uncompetitive as it is, and having matches where even the most lopsided matches can be taken to overtime on such a regular basis, we should never have a 3-2-1-0 point system. Otherwise we'd have bunch of underdog teams stealing singular points from the top teams just by placing a bus in front of their net through out regulation and going for harpoon attacks. It could also result into a situation in which the better teams would have to go for all out attack to secure full 3 points after playing a very frustrating even game, just to get downed to 0 points due to last minute bounces and other cheesy plays.
If we want to encourage teams to be active and play as aggressively through out the game as they would in the first period, we'd have to consider 2-0 point system in which the winner gets 2 points and loser gets 0 despite whether the game is decided in regulation or OT. Anyhow, there would be certain faults with this system as well.
Thanks for your post! Maybe i am just too tired, but i just don`t get it... what would make this underdog team want that one OT point more on 3-2-1-0 system than 2-1-0 system? I would think that underdog has more reasons to try to fight from that single point on 2-1-0 system, because on this system single point is relatively more valuable.
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15 minuuttia sitten, ICappeI kirjoitti:
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1 tunti sitten, Jesus kirjoitti:
OT is also in general less exciting since both teams already lost one point each.
Do we want more exciting OT or more exciting regular time?
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13 minuuttia sitten, tbnantti kirjoitti:
I don't really care which way points are counted as the better teams will still prevail and the worse teams won't. I don't really know if the assumption that "teams play it safe" is correct either. If it is an even match-up with teams battling for the same position, why would you want to give points to the opponent rather than deny them of points by winning in regular time? And if the skill gap is bigger (top vs bottom), the worse team would still try to salvage at least a point.
One solid argument for a 3p win is that there would be the same amount of points up for grabs in each game, regardless of whether or not it goes to OT. But as I said, I'm indifferent on the topic.
The case is not really about that if win gives you just 2 points you would not want to win. The case is that if you would get 3 points of a win, you would want to win even more. I think no one denies this? Your example is ok, but even on that case there is often 3rd or 4th team that these two teams playing want to stay above on standings. Specially at the end of the season you will see this more.
I just think that winning some team 10-0 should be way more than one point more valuable than losing to some team on overtime.
@tbnantti here gives example that 3 point system is not always better... and guess it is true. Can some tell some examples why or when 2 point of win system is better than 3 point system?
4 minuuttia sitten, Eki kirjoitti:A win is a win. I think it would be wrong to cut off points for an OTW, especially when the game lasts 15min.
And loss is a loss. Why do we give OT loser one point?
2 point of win / 0 point of loss would also be ok system
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Hello amigos!
Now is the time that this have been heard in conversations around the parties. So from a tip of a friend i thought we can now do a little poll of the case. What do you think, is the current point counting system best? Or could it be better?
I personally think that it is now too tempting to play safe and make sure both teams get at least that one point from getting to an overtime. Winning on regular time should be worth more than winning on overtime.
Hope you give your opinion to community.
Thanks folks.
BR, Kose
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After getting fired at the last minute from Me Carvoset... I am looking for a good team. I can play LD / RD / LW / RW. I am stronger on the right side(RD/RW). I prefer defense man job.
Back-up role in a good team is also fine.
E: I found a team with a best mascot ever! Thanks to other teams of your interest!
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Results are now updated. Regular season is now done and tomorrow we know who is the winner of the cup.
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Results updated, good games and good fights tonight
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Monday 30.3.2020
21:00 CET Me Carvoset-Clumsy Penguins 2-4
21:30 CET Clumsy Penguins-Me Carvoset 5-321:00 CET Mockba-Genesis 1-3
21:30 CET Genesis-Mockba 4-2Tuesday 31.3.2020
21:00 CET Me Carvoset-Genesis 5-0
21:30 CET Genesis- Me Carvoset 4-621:00 CET Mockba-Clumsy Penguins 0-1 ot
21:30 CET Clumsy Penguins-Mockba 1-5Wednesday 1.4.2020
21:00 CET Me Carvoset-Mockba 1-3
21:30 CET Mockba-Me Carvoset 5-021:00 CET Clumsy Penguins-Genesis 4-2
21:30 CET Genesis-Clumsy Penguins 3-1Thursday 2.4.2020
21:00 CET A) Clumsy Penguins-Me Carvoset BO1 5-1
21:00 CET B) Mockba-Genesis BO1 2-1 ot
21:30 CET FINAL!!! Clumsy Penguins-Mockba 2-4WINNER MOCKBA CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!!
ECL Rules, except :
- Win 3 points. OT win 2 points. OT loss 1 point
- And because it is pitsiturnaus, fighting is off-course allowed
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1 tunti sitten, Team Ice Vikings kirjoitti:
Hey,
Greetings from Denmark.
We are a new and very ambitious team looking for a goalie with skills and talent for our line-up formation.
If you are interested in a couple of try outs with the guys, please get back to me asap and we will work something out.
Looking forward to your reply.
Henrik
Nice scouting bro! Hidden gem!
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Posted · Edited by ahonaattorii
Not really sure anymore do i want to grind to ELITE with PRO team... so ELITE teams...call me!
... but if some brave manager of a noob team wants to try his luck, go ahead.... i may read your message.