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No, I don’t care where players choose to play. But I’m not naive enough to ignore the problems that clearly exist. The main question is still unanswered: where did the money go? My “agenda” is simply that players have been lied to, which they obviously have. But by all means, keep insinuating what my purpose is. What’s yours then? Protecting your friends?

Watch out for the Flyerkungens army. He’s standing in the burning house and thinks it feels good. 🤑 I’ve received my prize money before too, that’s not the point. If you actually read their statement, you’d see they are months behind on multiple payouts and are now setting up installments just to pay what’s already owed. It doesn’t take a genius to see that something is seriously wrong when a company has to create a four-part payment plan for prize money that should’ve been paid long ago. So the real question is -what exactly are you yapping about?

This is not rebuilding trust. It is delaying responsibility. You are now asking the community to accept a payment plan for money that should have been paid out months ago. That is not transparency, that is a desperate attempt to stay alive. No legitimate organization needs three months and four installments to pay what players already earned. Telling players that they can use their prize money to buy an ECL 26 license is not a solution. It is proof that you are using new seasons to fund old debts. That is not a community project. That is a broken financial cycle that only works as long as people keep paying in. You also lowered the prize share from 50 percent to 35 percent of the license income. That is not honesty, it is confirmation that the situation is worse than you admit. And calculating it after VAT and transaction fees makes the real number even smaller. Players get less and less every year while the costs keep going up. You keep talking about compliance with Finnish law, but nobody ever said this was illegal. The problem is not legality. The problem is trust. You promised guaranteed prize pools, and the money is missing. That is what the community wants to know. Where did all those thousands of euros disappear? That is what people are asking for — a straight answer. Have you also made a payment plan with iRSPe that his company has accepted? Or is that something you simply plan to ignore too? You do not rebuild trust with long messages or future promises. You rebuild it by paying what you owe and by showing where the money went. Until that happens, no serious team, player or sponsor should continue supporting SportsGamer. For years this community gave you their time, effort and trust. You spent all of it. Now it is time to stop talking and start proving.

It’s all good bro. Patzlaf has already confirmed that Sportsgamer is going to pay. 😂 Listen to the Elite players. If they refuse to believe there are any problems, then there are no problems. Just fall in line.

With everything already said, I personally want to thank Kenu for these years on nhlgamer/sportsgamer. ....... Despite the darkness surrounding things now, there have still been moments of light here at Sportsgamer. As many have already written, in the beginning this was actually quite good. But when the leadership behind the company started focusing on money coming in, and absolutely no money going out, they destroyed what once made this great. The legacy, the trust, and the community spirit — all of it disappeared under their ownership. I want to be clear that I hope this situation is not something Kenu personally caused. I truly hope he is not the reason the scene has ended up like this. I am now moving on to the other side of the scene, where something new and fresh is being built. Hopefully, I will bring my four teams with me. I sincerely hope that the players you owe money to will eventually receive what they are owed. It is your responsibility to make that happen. If that is no longer possible, then you should seriously consider declaring the company bankrupt. With that said, I hope others will follow. Because what truly matters here are the players, not those who tried to lead this. If the focus had ever truly been on the players, I am convinced we would never have ended up in this situation. Thank you, and best of luck.

Correct. If other mods decide to join the discussion, they should expect a response, especially if they do it with a bit of sarcasm, irony, or attitude. Otherwise you’re absolutely right. This is where we’re at, and meanwhile another site with a new tournament format is already being built. That’s the bottom line. The money is gone, but where did it go?

It might actually be a good idea to use a program to get your grammar right. But if you want to use that as some sort of insult, that’s up to you. Maybe it’s even something you should consider yourself, to help correct the same kind of errors that happen when you play games. The hands, just like mine, aren’t quite what they used to be. If you want to go down that road and make this personal with small jabs, then fine. I can do the same and be completely transparent with you. You know what, maybe you should start using ChatGPT to think for you, because whatever that reply was supposed to be, it came out incredibly awkward. But credit where it’s due. It’s actually impressive to see you finally speak up. You’ve built quite the reputation for avoiding conflict and hiding behind your friends, so it’s refreshing to see you step out and actually respond instead of disappearing like usual. Now to the point. Nobody here ever expected you or the other volunteer admins to personally fix the finances or issue payments. The frustration isn’t aimed at the people who helped moderate tournaments or update brackets. It’s aimed at the person hiding behind the official SportsGamer account yesterday, who posted that confusing statement that somehow managed to make everything even less clear. You say you’re not part of the ownership, and that’s fair. But that’s exactly why your reply misses the point. You stepped into a discussion about accountability from the organization itself, not from unpaid helpers. When you admit you have zero insight while still trying to defend the situation, it comes across as defensive and misplaced. What people want isn’t another “I don’t know.” They want transparency from the people who took the money. The community has already done the math, and none of it adds up. There are debts, missing funds, and companies linked to the same structure that raise serious questions. Every vague or sarcastic answer just makes it worse. Nobody is asking you to solve this. But maybe stop treating legitimate criticism like it’s drama. Because while you might not have earned anything in ten years, a lot of players here have earned something worse, complete distrust.

Respectfully? Let’s not hide behind that word. You don’t need to reply “yass queen slay,” but you could start by acknowledging that players have been waiting years for prize money that was promised and advertised. That’s not drama or opinion, that’s a fact. When you say you don’t know the financial state of SportsGamer, that’s actually part of the problem. You’re an admin for a platform that has repeatedly taken money from its players through license fees, team fees, and sponsor-backed tournaments, yet you admit you don’t know where the money goes. That’s exactly why people are speaking up. This isn’t about guilt, it’s about accountability. The trust that once existed between the community and the platform has been completely broken, and every dismissive or sarcastic reply only widens that gap. You can laugh all you want, but the players, the ones who literally keep your platform alive, aren’t laughing. We’re the reason this community exists in the first place. So no, I don’t want a “yass queen.” I want transparency, responsibility, and for the people who built this scene to stop being treated like they’re disposable.

Funny how the “esports dream” turned into a debt collection story. Let’s be honest. We’ve all been paying for seasons with a massive risk of never seeing that money again. The only difference now is that more people in the community finally realize it. Not a single cent should go to this website until they have paid their debts to the players. If that means the platform collapses, so be it. At least then it would be transparent. You can’t revive something that’s already dead. And yes, we know the admins are reading. The silence after their last statement says it all. More questions, zero answers. Silence doesn’t look professional. It looks guilty. #PayThePlayers

#PayWhatYouOwe

I don’t speak a word of Finnish, but it looks like you can take out a loan if you click that link. Maybe that’s exactly what the company running this site should do, so the players still waiting for their money can finally get paid.

Adorable reply. The popcorn line was cute, it really drives home the point that you’re here for entertainment, not understanding. You keep painting this picture where the only two options are Kenu living in a mansion or everyone needs to shut up and be grateful. Reality sits somewhere in between. No one is accusing anyone of hiding money under a mattress in Espoo. The issue is that players paid for something, didn’t receive what was promised, and are being met with condescending lectures instead of accountability. And since you brought up Einstein, he didn’t leave the building. He probably just got tired of explaining basic logic to people who mistake loyalty for intelligence.

Appreciate the civil tone, finally a reply that doesn’t sound like it was typed mid meltdown. But let’s be honest. If a company continuously takes money from players, promises prize pools, and then fails to deliver year after year, that’s not bad business. That’s business gone bad. You can wrap it in fancy terms like cashflow issues or unlucky timing, but at the end of the day, people paid for a product and didn’t get what they were promised. If a company can’t handle that responsibility, it shouldn’t be selling licenses or hosting tournaments. And please, spare the government tax increase sob story. We’re not talking about a bakery that couldn’t afford flour, we’re talking about an organization that has pocketed tens of thousands of euros from a paying player base, then gone silent when it’s time to pay out. So yes, you might have a BBA, and that’s great. But you don’t need a degree in international business to recognize when the books don’t balance. You just need a bit of common sense and a moral compass that points somewhere other than excuse management.

Ah, finally, the Einsteins have arrived. Always fascinating how the self-proclaimed business experts show up the moment someone mentions accountability. Let’s make this simple. The issue isn’t about understanding business models, it’s about a company that doesn’t pay out prize money that players have rightfully earned. That’s not a cashflow issue, that’s a breach of trust. If you buy a lottery ticket and win, you expect your winnings. You don’t expect to wait twelve months and be told to be patient because the organizer spent your money somewhere else. What you’re describing isn’t business, it’s mismanagement dressed up as martyrdom. “Thousands of free hours,” “small business struggles,” “support the community”… it’s the same emotional violin every time. Meanwhile, players who paid to participate are left with nothing but excuses. So please, spare us the hero speech. This isn’t a charity, it’s a paid competition. And when the house stops paying out, it stops being a game —> it becomes a scam

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This calculation has been around the community for a while. From what I remember, it was based on the license setup and pricing during NHL 24, using the actual number of teams per division that year. It also includes both Winter and Spring seasons, plus the officially announced prize pools. 💰 Original Community Estimate Elite 💳 Player Licenses: 6 players × 16 teams × 40 € = 3,840 € 🏒 Team Licenses: 16 teams × 1,000 € = 16,000 € 💰 Total Revenue: 19,840 € 🏆 Prize Pool: 18,920 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 920 € Pro 💳 Player Licenses: 8 players × 32 teams × 40 € = 10,240 € 🏒 Team Licenses: 32 teams × 700 € = 22,400 € 💰 Total Revenue: 32,640 € 🏆 Prize Pool: 6,192 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 26,448 € Lite 💳 Player Licenses: 8 players × 64 teams × 40 € = 20,480 € 🏒 Team Licenses: 64 teams × 400 € = 25,600 € 💰 Total Revenue: 46,080 € 🏆 Prize Pool: 6,261 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 39,819 € Core 💳 Player Licenses: 8 players × 48 teams × 40 € = 15,360 € 🏒 Team Licenses: 48 teams × 222 € = 10,656 € 💰 Total Revenue: 26,016 € 🏆 Prize Pool: 1,980 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 24,036 € Total (Top 4 Divisions) 💰 Total Revenue: 124,576 € 🏆 Total Prize Pool: 33,353 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 91,223 € Summary: Only 26.7% of all money collected actually went back to the players. The remaining 73.3% stayed with SportsGamer. And as many of us know, some teams were even offered to skip their prize payout entirely, in exchange for having it deducted from their next season’s license fee. Which, while fair on paper, doesn’t change the percentages above. What SportsGamer Said Themselves Their official statement in the thread said: “Following a later decision that reclassified the licenses under a higher rate, SportsGamer has been required to apply 24–25.5% VAT, which has significantly increased our costs and placed a heavy strain on our finances. In practice, this means that of the total amount paid for licenses, roughly 20% goes to taxes, about 50% to prize payments, and around 30% to operational costs.” So, let’s recalculate using their own explanation. According to Their Claimed Distribution (20% / 50% / 30%) Category Amount (€) Share Total Revenue 124,576 € 100 % Taxes (≈20%) 24,915 € 20 % Prize Money (50%) 62,288 € 50 % Operational Costs (30%) 37,373 € 30 % Total 124,576 € 100 % Comparison Source Total Revenue (€) Prize Pool (€) % to Players Difference Community Estimate 124,576 € 33,353 € 26.7 % — SportsGamer’s Own Claim 124,576 € 62,288 € 50.0 % +23.3 % If we take their numbers at face value, it would mean that half of all collected money went back to players. Which sounds great — except that it clearly didn’t. The official prize pools are nowhere near that. Their own math completely contradicts the public data. Even if we assume 20% VAT was paid (fair enough), that still leaves about 99,660 € within the company. Out of that, according to their statement, 62,288 € should’ve gone to prizes. But the actual amount distributed was 33,353 €. That’s a gap of roughly 28,935 € per season, using their own claimed figures. If their 20 / 50 / 30 split was real: The tax is fine, it’s part of the license cost anyway. The prize pool should’ve been closer to 62,000 €, not 33,000 €. About 29,000 € per season is simply unaccounted for. So the question becomes even more obvious: where did the money go? And when they now say that no salary has been paid to Kenu since December 2024, it raises even more questions. Because if no salary was paid, the money clearly isn’t showing up as prizes, taxes, or operating costs either. As Janikka said perfectly in her post: "have questions about the current organizational or ownership dynamics. A company called Reactio Media is or was somehow involved (as evidenced by the current Twitch account that hosts all the SportsGamer streams). I can't find any pertinent information about the company online, but its owners are involved in various companies whose background information is available." This whole thing didn’t clarify anything , it just made it all look even more suspicious. At this point, the picture being painted is less of a struggling company… and more of a pyramid-shaped business model. I’m not a mathematician, and I’m not an economist. But what’s certain is that the total amount of paid licenses adds up more or less correctly. It’s everything else that doesn’t add up.

Thank you Janikka and Imosi! 👑

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Let’s be honest. This isn’t transparency. It’s damage control. SportsGamer has been struggling for years, and it’s not because of Twitch or sponsorships. It’s because of poor management and a lack of honesty. You’ve been collecting license fees from players season after season, while prize payments have been delayed or disappeared altogether. That’s not bad luck. That’s bad leadership. You say that 20% of the money goes to taxes, 50% to prizes, and 30% to operations. If that’s true, then prize pools should already be secured before the tournaments even begin. Instead, it’s obvious that player license fees are being used to pay your ongoing expenses. That means players have been funding your operations, not their own prize pools. And now you talk about seeking external funding to pay off prize money that’s already overdue. No legitimate company does that. If the money was handled properly, there would be no need for investors to cover the gap. It’s clear that the funds have been mismanaged. Then comes the part where you ask the community whether we’d still play if the prize pools were reduced. That’s not a survey. That’s a way to soften the blow before you announce that the money is gone. It’s an attempt to make players feel responsible for your mistakes! At this point, SportsGamer is no longer running as a community platform. It’s running like a pyramid scheme. New license fees pay old debts, management keeps their salary, and when the structure starts collapsing, you try to shift the blame onto the players. This isn’t about delays anymore. It’s about trust and integrity. You built this scene on passion, volunteer work, and player effort. You’ve now used that trust to keep a sinking ship afloat. If you truly care about this community, then prove it. Publish the numbers. Show exactly where the money went. Let the players see what’s real. Until that happens, no team, player, or sponsor should continue supporting SportsGamer. You don’t fix broken trust with surveys or nice words. You fix it by paying what you owe and telling the truth. To the SportsGamer leadership Your statement doesn’t fix the problem, it confirms it. You’ve collected license fees season after season, promised prize pools that were never secured, and now admit to needing external funding to pay players what they’re owed. The community deserves accountability, not vague apologies and PR language. If SportsGamer truly values “transparency,” then publish the books. Show where the license money went. Show the debt. Show the shareholders. Until that happens, no player, sponsor, or organization should continue funding this structure. You don’t get to “survey your way out of accountability.” Pay the winners. Publish the numbers. Or shut it down. // A long-time EHL/ECL player who’s done watching you exploit this community.

The problem here is that there are still players in ECL Elite who keep buying into all the bullshit behind this. Through my teammates, I posted a detailed calculation showing how many hundreds of thousands of euros Sportsgamer pulls in every year. Yet there were still well-known players from top teams who genuinely believed that a Twitch broadcast costs around 1,500 euros. 😅 And somehow, that was considered a reasonable explanation for where all the money went. At that point, I honestly considered quitting my job, giving up the 70,000 euros I make each year, and becoming a professional caster here on Sportsgamer if this delusion were actually true. No, Sportsgamer. You know exactly what I think about this, and both you and I know that you have tried to silence me before. But enough is enough. If this continues, it might be time for someone to bring the international financial authorities into this company.

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vNexs - ECL PRO IN: @LukasGudinge (LD) With the final piece now in place, our roster is set for the upcoming ECL season. Goaltenders Benjamint737 SeboLHD Defensemen S-S-vamp Gudinge Forwards Artusjo Veronneau Dippen04 EDHOLMINHO ------------------------ Alongside our ECL PRO team, vNexs will also be represented by two squads in ECL Core: vNexs Faxes vNexs Wisemen Those rosters are also shaping up nicely with exciting new players joining the teams. See you on the ice - and may anyone running TRUC forever be cursed with sour milk at dinner, soft gifts at Christmas, and rain on every single vacation day in the summer of 2026

95% of this community won’t even read this. But 9 out of 10 teams we faced tonight had players running Truc – even in PRO and below. Let’s be clear: that ability is garbage. It ruins every single game from the moment the puck drops. It doesn’t matter if it’s Friday, Thursday, or a random night in the middle of the week – stop ruining the gameplay for everyone else. Spread this within your teams. A gentleman’s agreement, so to speak.