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Hmm... does this mean that there will be no change to number of lucky bounce goals? At the time off beta tuner roll back number of insane bouncing goals has been ridiculous.

The Dudes looking for goalie. Transfer deadline for Lite is tonight so be fast!! Playtime guaranteed... maybe even tonight Contact me here or psn ahonaattori

6vs6 was totally different no laggy at all. Skating and game play felt very smooth and reactive... i dont know why, but it sure was fun to play. You can use X a lot without worrying of possible penalties, at least when you area close to opponent. I am not sure yet how will this effect, but i am sure it is not just a bad thing. What was checking like? I think i didnt have many attempts last night, but it seemed a bit harder? If i remember it right it was efficient check in beta.

After three games of 3s. These are not beta tuners I really didnt see a difference between game play today and last week... Except that now every game felt a bit laggy. And maybe opponent took few more penalties with poke check than before. Maybe it would be easier to see difference in 6vs6.

Thanks of the Preview! I bet, Forward to watch in Group 1 Sergei "Klassikko_" Klassikov is going to find some new angles to score

Heh, i didn`t even realize that it has been 1 ECL season / NHL / YEAR And good to know you are looking for new ways to keep us entertained 🤜 I think that easiest way would be simply making next ECL season longer. Fe. double the regular season. But i don`t know is it smart to do with so short notice... or what would be common opinion of the community in this case. But what ever you do, it would be nice if tournament could be played with these Lite teams, so it would create more continuity. Or maybe you could make a longer summer cup and split it to fe. PRO+ELITE players to one group and rest of the players to another.

Ok. I think you have done good job in promoting teams... no complaints by me. Thanks for the interesting info, i was not aware of that. I thought that you look at the big picture when replacing teams in PRO. So fe. if some of Northern Ascendacy and Radical players would start a new club, you would rather fill empty spot in PRO with 8th ranking Lite team than the club of these experienced Elite players? Thats ok, sounds kind of fair and sure its not a common situation. I am not sure how you should split Lite to new Lite and lower level league at the first time... or how should teams be promoted between leagues. I am sure you or we could figure out some kind of system for it. Me and my team could start in lowest division if it looks that we should... maybe that would be a hit for some teams to get dropped to lower level, but most of the teams would be ok with it. They would get to have more games(maybe?) and more of them against about same level opponents.. Its nothing but win win to everything else except EGO I think that at the end we would have more valuable Elite(longer to climb up on divisions) and more really competitive league games from improved Lite(maybe a big punch of those bench warmers in PRO would be willing to play in Lite).

Thanks for good posts and ideas... Discussion is what helps admins create better, more suitable product for all parties. I think this is a great idea and a i have also been thinking about it. Honestly, i was first going to write a post something like "What would your perfect ECL be like". And big part of that post would have been creating a new division under Lite and restrict number of Lite teams to fe. 32 teams. But then i thought it is a thing that we cant change before ECL8 and i wanted to focus discussion to number of games being played in Lite. Yeah agree, it was a fun regular season! Super tight group! I think, that if some of the teams would have played in different group, there may have been one or few teams in a top 4... But now, The Black Jacks murdered 3 of our groups teams... I think that league admins have every season raised some new team(s) straight to PRO by just looking at their roster. I think that it has not really been a big problem and with 4 division system it would be even less... because now league admins would have 2 options of which division to place a new team... Or even if all new teams would have to start in Lite, the division would be way tougher than what it is now. But yeah of course it would be too easy for Elite level teams... probably they should just be promoted straight to PRO. But even if not... at least it would raise the value of Elite and PRO divisions... Maybe we would see even less of teams falling apart in those two great divisions and i think it would raise brand value of ECL. Yeah sure equality is hard to achieve in Leagues with 30+ teams... It is hard to achieve even in Elite where is 16 teams. I think is there is a huge difference between bottom4 and top4 teams in Elite as well.

The Dudes looking for 1 Finnish backup skater and backup goalie. We play Monday-Thursday 19-20:00 cet ->...+ some on other days too. We are easy going adults willing to improve personal and team play. So i hope you somehow fit to that description. Contact me here or even better PSN ahonaattori

Yeah, its great that people got other stuff to do as well. I dont know what kind of contract have you signed with your team, but usually anyone dont have to play all games. Roster rotation comes handy when have to spend time with family etc... 30 Would be great! And that 24 that @Kenu mentioned would be ok too! At least it is way better than 16 that we had last season... Specially if you want to rotate your roster its very hard with 8 gamedays.

Thx for the reply @Kenu! I agree, that its not optimal, if something like 40 Lite teams don`t get to have playoff experience. I also have a feeling, that because of timing of next season, there is going to be few teams less in Lite than last season. And that will solve the number of playoff teams "problem" by it self. What i don`t agree, is that % of teams that quit the tournament in Lite would be higher when regular season is longer. I think other wise. When you start a tournament with a new team and after first 3-5 game days few of your players realize that the club or ECL concept is not for them...is probably the biggest reason why teams quit during regular season. After this, from the POV of GM it looks veeery hard to find those new players when you have only 1 week left before transfer deadline. If there would be double the time (about 2 week) more teams would find new players and continue their season. But this is just my guess. Would be fun and beneficial to hear more Lite players and GM`s of their opinion on this case. E: Shjjjjjt i have to write more because looks like i didn`t read you post well... Daam you glögi You wrote about those few teams that have hard time to get even that first win in ECL. Sure they often have hard time to finish their seasons, but i am not sure is there any medicine for it. Shorter regular season don`t seem to work. If there would be bigger groups, would it be more likely that there is other or few of these beginner teams in every group? And that way everyone would have some more of those games against easier opponents too? But of course there would be more tougher teams too... it looks like there is no way around this. If this is considered as a big problem maybe there should be some kind of tournament for the new clubs? Where all new teams would have to play against each other and it they can`t finish their games... they would not get Lite license Heh, maybe that is stupid idea...

Yeah bigger groups is a must have. Is the reason of keeping number of games low in Lite, that it means too much work for league admins? Ton of teams + lot of games = shiiiiiitload of reporting errors? Would it help if we would not use game log in Lite? I mean logging what time every goal, pass and penalty is taken and by who. I think that is not necessary in Lite.

Hola Amigos! I would like to raise some conversation about the number of games being played in Lite. What number of games do you think is good? What changes should be done Lite? Don`t take this wrong, you guys here are doing a great work and i get that you have to do the things that you do. And your service must be focused for the best players in the community but i am writing here from Lite teams GM POV. What do Lite players get from this community? 14-18 game days / year + playoffs if you are doing fine. I am sorry but that is really not that much. Better players have double the number of games in ECL + eSM + Summer CUP. Yeah i know every noob can participate in eSM or SummerCup, but really its not that fun to play against elite or half elite teams with hands of wood. Lower level players are now going to play own tournaments like Magic Cup(thanks to @skebazu) or and play with NHL Gamer nemeses like OEHL or stuff like that I guess that is something you don`t want. Ok, just remembered that there is RCL and GCL also ... but nothing for noob Finns Any ways... my point in short is that i`m sure that many Lite teams want more games! Lite teams often need to have bigger roster because teams are new and players are new to competitive scene or even 6vs6 änäri. And this means that you most likely have players who will lose their interest or who are not good enough to learn some stuff... So you need to have backup in your roster to be sure you can finish the tournament. And because of that, you need to do some rotation in you roster.... And i must say, its not easy to rotate if you play just 7 days. What could be done? Does increasing number of games in Lite lead to too much work for league admin? Would it help if game log would not be so precise in Lite? Or if you could somehow give responsibility of correct reporting to players? = no game reporting issues for admins. This could quite easily be done by giving captains rights(fe. if both captains agree) to delete reported stats. That way they can log stats again if they are wrong. Bigger regular season and smaller play-offs would be great. 64 team play-offs are not good.. About 16 team groups and 32 team play-offs would sound good. A bit side of the topic: Should Summer Cup be cut in half for lower and higher level players? Fe. Pro+Elite / others. This would create more games against about same level opponents for Lite level players. Or should Finns and Swedes also have its own league? There is RCL and GCL... Why not FHL (sry if this is trade mark violation @Eisenhugel).

The Dudes looking for Finnish RD. We play Monday-Thursday 19-20:00 cet ->...+ some on other days too. We are easy going adults willing to improve personal and team play. So i hope you somehow fit to that description. Contact me here or even better PSN ahonaattori

Double the teams in Lite than Pro+elite... 1/4 of free agents here rdy for Lite. How is this possible? ECL starts 7.1.2018, wake the fk up free agents!!! The Dudes looking for starting six RD and G. Contact me here or psn ahonaattori Yeah, i get it Red Dead... BF V and other shit, but cmn!! Time to start to look for new team is now!

Double the teams in Lite than Pro+elite... 1/4 of free agents here rdy for Lite. How is this possible? ECL starts 7.1.2018, wake the fk up free agents!!! The Dudes looking for starting six RD and G. Contact me here or psn ahonaattori

Still looking...

Lite team The Dudes looking for Finnish RD. Contact me here or PSN ahonaattori

ECL Lite team The Dudes looking for starting G, D and F for regular eashl and future tournaments. We usually play Monday-Thursday 19-20:00cet -> ....and some on weekends Contact me for tryouts in here or PSN ahonaattori

Still looking.

ECL Lite team The Dudes looking for new players for off-season and future tournaments. - Looking for players on all positions LW, C, RW, LD, RD, G - We want you to be Finnish easy going adult... goalie don`t have to speak Finnish... Contact me for tryouts. PSN ahonaattori

Looks like i was not wrong warning about this user...

ECL Lite team The Dudes looking for backup players. We have only 7 skater(1 is very inactive) and 2 goalies. We can not guarantee any games for you, but things can happen and we may need your help. And you will have a chance to fight of bigger role for the future tournaments. Contact me here or PSN ahonaattori PS: Transfer deadline is tomorrow 24.10, so please be quick with your reply... and we don`t probably have lot of time for tryouts.

The Dudes looking for players to all positions (except goalie) to fill up roster and fight for spot in starting line-up. Finding defenseman is priority, because at the moment, we have only 1 or 2. We play mostly 20-23cet(some times some dudes play earlier) so we want you to be active specially around 18-23 CET. We are easy going group of (mostly)Finnish adult Dudes. It`s a plus if you are Finnish and have a mic. PM me here, or PSN: ahonaattori

This did not help in this case. He was member of the club when he joined. I fired him, everyone else left from dressing room, we came back and he was still there...