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I love everything about this message - you basically cleared the table. I’ve bolded my favorites. Also, @FINSeRe is spot on. There have been many great posts overall - kudos to everyone. While I agree that the BT ban was probably the right call since it's such an automatic skill, I also think SG shouldn’t go any further and should let the situation settle. Banning X-Factors one by one isn’t the way to go. People will always start chasing the next "worst" ability, and it becomes an endless cycle. I repeat myself, but every trait has its own issues, so it doesn't make sense to remove some XFs while leaving others. We know some of them are more powerful than others, but in general, it's not fair in my opinion. Sopuli explained why quite well. It's easy to be hindsight-driven, but I think when the first-ever XF bans took place, it was a mistake. While it did make a somewhat shitty game a little more enjoyable, we should have just banned them all. So, I’m not criticizing the end result, just the approach. But as I said, it's easy to look back with hindsight, and I was also advocating for individual trait bans back in the day. This brings us to the point where I think BT is the only one that should be put in "jail" at the moment. The next step is either to ban them all or let the game run as EA intended, with XFs included - even though I don’t like the latter option. For me, the Sauna Cup was easily the best and most enjoyable gaming experience I’ve had since the X-Factors were introduced to the game. It just felt natural, in a good way. I'm sure many of you would have enjoyed it as well. I remember counting the GF and GA per game, which were almost identical to ECL. I know it was a different NHL game then, but when it comes to hockey, creativity never dies. There will always be different ways to generate scoring chances; you just need to adjust. If we ban all traits, the start could be frustrating because we have gotten used to building our style around those X-Factors. However, after some time, I believe most of us would come to love it. As for the goalies, they aren’t overpowered; they’re just broken. EA's game mechanics are so RNG overall that goalies will save empty nets and let in soft goals, regardless of whether there are XFs or not.

I have to ask why it will never happen? Every X-Factor is kinda silly in their own way, some being more stupid than others obviously. Anyway, now when EA "removed" Elite Edges, this should be the perfect spot to just ban them all from competitive gameplay, and end this f*cking stupid shitshow circle happening again year after year. No? If I would need to choose, I would go with "ban all" or "don't ban nothing" at this point. I have to agree with message above 100%. I take Kenus side with the decision they've made. He clearly informed 5-6 weeks ago they will probably go with "no-bans" if enough people doesn't stand out. Players saying it was "off-season" is just poor take for me. I understand that, but it's just not enough. Should SG have reminded us about this article? Yes sure, but it's still impossible to blame SG about it or attack towards them. Current situation is our fault and some self-reflection could be made here and there. What makes me the most tired are the toxic messages with zero value on this topic. Don't overreact, sit down, deep breath, analyze the shit and write your thoughts as respectfully as possible and the most important thing, justify your sayings. I rarely take part in conversations in this scene nowadays, and that's mostly because of the quality of the conversation and "cheap shots". Maybe I'm getting too old. And for SG, I also suggest to not make things harder what they really are. And with that I mean, if majority wants fe.; Big Tipper to be banned and no-one is against it, SG should have some balls to make quick LA decisions inside week or two. It's not that hard after all. We don't need 2 or 3 months long "testing ground" season to see if the shit is brown when we clearly know the answer already.

First game of the day going on atm. Career high packet loss, 4%.

Yesterday was easily the best day for a long time. First game had like 3% packet loss and at some point it even started to feel unplayable first time during the problem. Couple really huge lag spikes. But after that, rest of the evening (maybe 5 games?) went without any problems. 0% packet loss and zero weird occasional micro-stutters. It's so weird idk what's going on. Had phone call with DNA yesterday. They doubt it the problem could be at their end, suggested to check with EAs side. But they at least know about it and will keep eyes and ears open and look into it. DNA also sent me messages later yesterday, both English and Finnish. I put them here: EA is also informed about the problem and they know it and they promised to look into it.

I only wish it could be possible. Every apartment I've lived in only offers Fiber from one IPS. Previous place I was forced to use Elisa, now DNA. Only other options are 4G/5G. Just to clarify I've used DNA from 3/2022 and this is first "major" issue I face with them. It can also be EAs fault tho, so I'm not saying im disappointed to DNA or that they are dogshit. Other than this I have only positive experiences with DNA.

Thank you @Janikka. I was gonna make this thing public today aswell. What I have heard, there is many people with this issue. I have DNA Fiber connection, been working as great as possible. And it was great at least the first month of NHL 24. Something has happened after that, last couple weeks I have had 1-3% packet loss about 50% of games, I wasn't wise enough to track that it was only happening on Helsinki servers. But seems like it's connected to DNA aswell? Gonna make a phone call to there today for sure. It's not first time EA servers is having issues with Finnish ISP. Was it NHL 19 when many people was unable to even enter to EASHL game? Anyway, the packet loss is kinda shitty eventho it doesn't make game unplayable. Before they fix this, I say we should use Stockholm servers as a gentlemen rule in ECL, if there is at least 1 player with DNA. Most fair for everyone since it's not to players to decide what ISP they use when they want Fiber/wired. I have high hopes they will get fixed it asap tho. At least if we spread the word and give them a pressure. And what @OGjahajaha said, couple of my friends have reported that weird occasional micro-stutters aswell. They had Elisa. And zero packet loss. They don't remember what server it was when this happened. But seems like the problem is the Helsinki server?

As you said it by yourself, it's obvious different positions has different feelings of the game. I don't mind CQ, with or without, I can't score anyway. That's probably why I don't find it too OP, but I know what you mean. Trust me, I'm trying to think the whole game in general, not just traits that benefit myself. I'm probably gonna try RD from now on, but I still would prefer to have fe. Truc. banned. I totally understand Goalies point of view about CQ. My opinion, ban or not, I'm fine with it. But yeah for everyone it's just the personal feeling and experience and you get different pros and cons by playing different positions. In my text I just took the ones that has made me the biggest "yikes" effects so far. I guess the biggest question is, if you take BT, CQ and 1T off, can you score anymore? Well Sile made Sauna Cup without abilities happen so we will maybe see there. Eventho Goalies can't use abilities either, it might give some kind of picture.

If you decide to ban some X-factor(s), then it should be both Gold and Silver. Nothing between, bc there's no point otherwise. For me the point of banning some traits would be making the game more enjoyable, as (Aaro fe.) mentioned above. I haven't heard anyone to blame traits or x-factors after the loss or as a reason of being a bad player. Game is always same for both sides, with or without bans. Anyway, my Top3 would be Truculence+Unstoppable Force and Big Tipper. Truc+UF basicly just counters each other, so that's why both. NA actually were the first ones to ban stuff to try to make already bad EA product to little bit more enjoyable. I would say they were the forerunners with this. And if you desire to bring EU and NA even closer to each other in future, we should cooperate with the x-factor bans if there's any. So the game or rules are the same on both sides of the sea. P.S. Also would be interesting to see how the game would run with only Elite Edges allowed. Probably 0-0 games incoming, maybe need some Sile Sauna Cup for one weekend to see how it goes.

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Just a heads up. Prefer RD before LD (bc Nassu 2good LD), so all lefties you have advantage. As an addition, we are now hearing you forwards. Signing C/RW is not out of the picture. Prefer C tho, I wanna cherrypick. Thanks & you know where to contact me! #HAVUJA

HAVU GAMING A long story short. Things happened & we need new starting RD/LD. We prefer Finnish players before even considering anything else and previous Elite or high-level experience is a plus. We have a full support of esport org. HAVU & this is unique chance to be a part of the team. Contact me at NHLGamer, Twitter, PSN or Discord FlyerKungen#5948.

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HAVU GAMING After a little disappointing ECL 11 season we are facing some changes and we are aiming to build a team which will be back in the top, playing in the finals and being able to win the Championship in Elite. We want to make a starting lineup with players who share the same activity, goals and hungery to develope our game through the season to be able to achieve our best level when the games matter the most. I like to be honest and open-minded with you, since the rumors spread fast and we don't want to mislead you guys. So for now, @willekunq will step back and serve as a backup in upcoming tournaments. Also @Hansulinho will be probably going back to the goalie zone and share the spot with @SibeIius. We are already having some discussions about who is going to be our LW and it's not a suprise for you who we are dealing with. For now, we are waiting for the decision from that part. So, we are mainly looking for new starting RD, but new C/RW is not out of the picture if it feels like it will be the best solution for us. Me myself & our dear assistant captain @Dominointi are not afraid to step down to the D-zone if it's best for the team in a long run. If you are interested or you have questions, don't hesitate to contact me at NHLGamer, Twitter, PSN or Discord FlyerKungen#5948. P.S. This role is not for everyone, so think twice before contacting me. I believe I don't need to describe what kind of player we are looking for. With all respect, if I don't answer to you, that's because you are not the one we are looking for.

For sure. I'm not sure tho if there's fair system for this "super skilled and super competitive" NHL game. There's pros and cons in every one of them. For me the ENCE EKI's first message in the old topic has still value. Win is win and the games are very short. Thats why I still support the current system. But anyhow, only Elite players and teams should be able to make decisions what happens in Elite. Because of license, prizepool, etc. Pro/Lite/Neo sure can do whatever they want imo, but you need separate polls then. Public poll inlcuding every skill level doesn't have so much value for me in this kind of case.

There's some old topic we had discussion about it earlier this year. Just FYI.

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HAVU GAMING You might wonder why I'm writing to here, it's not because @Eemil left the tree house. To be honest with all of you, I'm writing here because we might face a "little" changes in our team, what comes to the starting lineup. It's not 100% sure yet, but you know how these things work. If you don't know, let me tell you. We are playing for big finnish organisation and ECL (?) is probably right around the corner, so of course you need to set up an additional plan, if things don't go as expected. We want to know our options already, so we don't screw up this and be too late if we need new forces. So, what we are POSSIBLY looking for? Either, 1) Starting LW or 2) Starting G Hopefully in next two & half weeks we will know 100% if one of positions above will be open for you. But we would love to have some conversations going already, so if you might be interested to be part of our future, don't hestitate to contact me with DM via NHLGamer, PSN or Discord (FlyerKungen#5948).