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To continue the conversation from the old thread... Now that the season is almost over for everyone, I would like to start a discussion about the upcoming tournaments and the ability bans. After playing the game more, I have to admit that I’ve started to doubt the “ban them all” approach. Why do I think we need abilities? I feel that the whole game has developed around the abilities, and I have a feeling that it will turn into a lot of turtle defense vs. turtle defense if all the abilities are banned. It could also force players to use builds that they normally wouldn't want to use. I propose banning all the Elite abilities. The currently allowed gold and blue abilities are pretty well-balanced. You could also keep the currently allowed gold abilities only if the community prefers that. Another interesting option would be allowing only one (gold or blue) ability per player. Please share your opinions. Does anyone else have doubts about the “ban them all” approach like I do?

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Ban them all or only allow second wind

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Agree 100%. Whatever the decision is, it would be fair for everyone to have time to adapt if there are going to be major changes not just one or two weeks before the new season. So the sooner the better.

I agree with all of that 100%. We have also tried games without abilities and imo it makes gameplay much more "force hockey/crash the net" than it is now already. As a dman interceptions and sticklifts are enough bad already so personally i dont need more that kind of gameplay... Without abilities there is not any kind of onetimer threats or far distance shot threats and that allows people to play that "turtle defence". Lets keep same rules/bans like in this last ECL or then keep same bans but only allow gold and/or blue versions of abilities (=ban elite versions). And if we are going to ban elite abilities then ban those elite abilities from goalies also. I hope like there will come some kind of public voting poll from sportsgamer side so everyone is having a chance to affect desicion. Its better that way than small group is making that kind of desicion. Let community decide.

Many people say that the game will get worse if all abilities are banned but we haven´t try it yet? 🤔 ➡️ What about if we create a password for games without abilities, so we can try to play without them? If you dont want to ban all abilities then this could also be a great idea: Sportsgamer should organize a poll about these abilities.

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I do want to point out that banning all the traits will probably lead to more turtle defence and more emphasis on counters and rushes. Less shooting traits -> harder to be a threat from outside the middle in the o-zone -> just plug the middle with five guys if you’re the defending team. Also, no second wind -> less energy for everyone -> more reloading energy before breaking out and also more trapping -> more slow breakouts, less fast breakouts and less rushes in general -> probably a less entertaining game for the players and the viewers

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This is a very good idea. There's apparently ample time before the next tournament, so now would be a good time to try it out even before any announcements, seeing as there should also be plenty of time to return to using abilities if needed.

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You make an excellent point here, but the problem is that they should have banned them all from the beginning, not in the middle of the release or during tournaments. I do agree that at some point we have to make a decision, but the best timing would be before the new release so we already know there won’t be abilities when the game launches and that it stays that way. I believe EA will not get rid of the abilities anytime soon (ever), as they make money from them. I’d also like to comment on the statement that “bans would not be based on the opinion of the loudest people in the community.” It’s not about who happens to speak up; it’s important that everyone who has an opinion feels encouraged to share it so all viewpoints can be heard. That was the whole reason I started this conversation. SportsGamer should make some decisions or conduct a poll as soon as possible so people have time to adjust.

Ban all the elite ones, and keep the bans as they are (maybe allow Elite Edges, but thats just my opinion)

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I can’t really justify my opinion with experience how gameplay would be because I have only played with current abilities rules this year (Gameplay is pretty good imo, it would be fairer without orange abilities), but I try to think what would be the most fair for everyone. In my opinion, the only fair solution is to ban all abilities, and they should stay banned as long as EA keeps the current ability system in the game. Otherwise, we will have this same discussion every single yearly release. The game would be more predictable, bans would not be based on the opinion of the loudest people in the community, there would not be unfairness because of abilities behind a paywall...game would just be fair for everyone.

Just ban blue and orange abilities and allow only gold ones. (Also keeping current perk bans) Will give some extra flavour to gameplay but nothing too OP or ridiculous. If you cant score without abusing blue or orange perks, nor if you cant make a save without them, then you just suck

Keep the abilities as they are now to avoid turtle defense. Maybe ban orange abilities if anything. Goalies i dont know anything other than that sponge looks illegally good.

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Not sure if I’m for or against banning all the traits, so not gonna comment on that yet. But as for Elite Edges: doesn’t it trigger the random stumbling animations more in opposing players? If that’s the case then definitely keep it banned (don’t want that added rng). If it’s not the case then I have nothing against it.