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"Do you really think top players aren't aware of the differences in builds?" At no point in my post did I insinuate this. The reason the top players use the builds that they use is because they are the best builds, atleast for the ways top teams like to play, But that's... exactly the point I was trying to make? So, we agree with one another? Look here, this is what I wrote, word for word: Yes, for a team of five top-tier Elite players, maybe the 4 PMD's + 1 PLY is the absolute best setup possible to maximize their skill, but that doesn't have to hold true for everyone else. One does not have to copy everything from the top teams, even if I understand the psychology behind it (Hint: The top teams are top teams mainly because of their individual and team skill, not their player builds). I was mainly talking about everyone else, not the 7-8 best teams in Europe, or the 50-60 players that play on these teams. My point was that the Meta these teams create, does not have to be the Meta everyone else uses, as very few teams can match the pace, style and skill of the absolute top teams. if you think you can outplay top teams with power forwards or any other non meta build, i wish you good luck. At no point in my post did I insinuate this. What I did insinuate was that the lower level teams, which from your perspective would be every team below Elite, might (and I am saying "MIGHT" here, not "WILL") have a better chance to keep up with the top teams if they decided to break free from the Meta that's been specifically created by the top teams to match the way they like to play (like you yourself said), and instead tried to build their own meta with player types, builds and a style that better suits their strengths. I also said I personally would enjoy watching an Elite broadcast if a team decided to break free from the typical Meta and play something like a PWF with Gold UF. But that was just my personal opinion (in this case as a viewer of the product). Regarding the world finals the builds NA players used weren't much different than eu builds, apart from using gold one tee and 1 inch shorter builds to get "better animations", the bigger difference was in tactical approach to the game, where Tunnel vision had a much slower play style where as Entourage played much faster and it had nothing to do with the builds. That's fair, I respect your perspective. You obviously competed at the same level as teams involved and would know what to look for. What I would argue, and this is more of a general argument, is that the fact that they did use Gold One-Tee and 1 inch shorter builds (something very, very few EU teams if any did at this point), played a major part in why they decided to use the faster play style. It's like arguing what came first, the chicken or the egg. I would argue that these two factors (the different traits/builds and the playing style) at the very least had an impact on each other. Saying "it had nothing to do with the builds", I would argue is incorrect.

haha oh my god. 😆 To choose to respond to an argument in the way you just did, is just a clear sign that you have just been run over in the argument and do not really know how to take it further. It is nothing to be ashamed of. We all know you are good, and have been good for years. However, this does not automatically mean that everything you think, write and believe is factual. Try to be less arrogant, so maybe even young players can look up to you as the person you are, and not just as a damn good player in a damn good team. I guess this is just like-fishing. 🙂 Which u most likely will get from the fanboys. Have fun, and good luck in ECL Winter!

I really think Furyan is on to something here with the pure entertainment value caused by the variety of playstyles. Now, in all honesty, only the off-ice twitter shit creates a strong brand in top leagues. That isn't the case with real hockey leagues where teams play hockey in a variety of strategies. I know the same approach doesn't apply 1:1 to ehockey but it does to some extent. +1 for one build style per team AND banning Big Tipper

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I think that in your replies you should start by stopping answering assertions that no one has made in the thing you are replying to. A bit on the same theme as your answer to Hampus above. What you refer to as “Meta” is not really a meta linked to the definition, but it is an attribute that you want in the game style you play. In this case you are insinuating that it is the attribute “speed”. A “meta” in a game is a weakness in the game being played, which people exploit. What you describe as “meta” here is more of a play style than a weakness. I think we need to keep the concepts separate here. You want to be able to skate fast, in straight lines, which is what the Elite teams started doing in NHL 24, and every offense ended with a force into the slot. Previous top teams in previous games, such as Havu and Fila when they were at their peak, they played on puck possession, movement and passing, the passing game set the pace of the game, and no other team in their heyday could keep up with that pace. The point was, and now I'm going to be overly clear so you don't have to respond to claims that are not claimed, THAT style of play can be achieved without having to be 185cm tall, and 72.5kg heavy build. And this was what I insinuated was damn nice that no top team ever tried to make work. Because it would have been hell for the opposing teams to face in for example NHL 25 where the mobility of the game is still pretty good regardless of the size of the build, and the speed without Elite-edges is not as dominant as it was in for example NHL 24. I'm not trolling. I'm responding.

1-0 Furyan And off-topic, but. Of course, the top teams would have been even more difficult to face if they had dared to learn to play with bigger builds. I've been saying this for years, and we should all be grateful that the top teams were stupid enough not to even try. - It is quite logical that it would have been a nightmare for a defender to face an individual top player who could handle both size and balance. Even worse if you faced a team that could handle all these parameters and let the puck pace set the pace of the game. (A bit like the top teams from Finland handled this in 17-19). (I Think KingofApes 1 time per year calls it - "skillhockey") If these players had spent at least as much time finding weaknesses in attributes as they spend on, for example, playing HUT, the top teams would have been as dominant as they were several years ago. Now, after all, the difference between the top and those behind is not very big. Carry on!

Yes, I really think it would make a difference. And yes, I really think viewers would notice a difference. I also think there'd be a lot more variety than you'd think. We haven't seen anyone try something like this yet, so how would we really know, right? Best we can do is make assumptions of how it would look. You are arguing this hypothetical rule would fail at creating variety, I am arguing it would be successful in creating variety. Chances are neither of us will ever find out if we were correct. However, I get where you're coming from. And I think you can see my point as well. Anyway, the main point of my entry wasn't to argue this "rule" NEEDED to happen, it was to pitch the idea and also to encourage teams to actually try using different player types, builds and playing styles instead of being beholden to a Meta that is pretty much exclusively set by 7-8 teams at the very top. For an example of how "using unusual builds and playstyles" can create a new and different viewing experience, one need not look further than the World Finals, where the NA Meta - which was quite different from the EU Meta - made the World Finals a lot more fun to watch than the 6v6 EU finals right before that. At least in my opinion.

Using different builds wouldn't change top tier gameplay at all, most teams would just go with snp-ply-od as forwards and pmd-twd as defensemen, so do you really think that makes a difference since the builds are almost identical in terms of size and speed, 99% of viewers wouldn't notice any difference between the builds and if the only reason to have this rule is just for the sake of variety, it already fails at that.

Do you really think top players aren't aware of the differences in builds? The reason the top players use the builds that they use is because they are the best builds, atleast for the ways top teams like to play, if you think you can outplay top teams with power forwards or any other non meta build, i wish you good luck. Regarding the world finals the builds NA players used weren't much different than eu builds, apart from using gold one tee and 1 inch shorter builds to get "better animations", the bigger difference was in tactical approach to the game, where Tunnel vision had a much slower play style where as Entourage played much faster and it had nothing to do with the builds. So change od for twf, woah what a difference

This might not be the place, but I'm already like five paragraphs into this so screw it. I'd like to delve deeper into the "each player type only used once per team" idea. Now, it might never get the traction it needs to actually become a rule, but I'd like to challenge teams and players to try it anyway. After thinking about it, I soon realized we actually run this exact setup on our team. We run a PMD-PLY-SNP, OFD-DFD lineup, meaning five different player types, and we've been doing something similar for the past two tournaments (SCL, ECL) we've participated in as well. And while I don't know if a setup like that will ever be viable at the Elite level (I hope to find out!), it is definitely viable as high up as the top tier of Pro - as evidenced by last season. It does require some extra effort in adapting your playstyle, both as a team and as individuals, but it can also yield some unexpectedly positive results. What I mean to say is that, the "Meta" doesn't have to be as all-encompassing as people make it out to be. Yes, for a team of five top-tier Elite players, maybe the 4 PMD's + 1 PLY is the absolute best setup possible to maximize their skill, but that doesn't have to hold true for everyone else. One does not have to copy everything from the top teams, even if I understand the psychology behind it (Hint: The top teams are top teams mainly because of their individual and team skill, not their player builds). In short, I'd like to encourage players and teams to try something different in order to see if it works for you. And if someone doesn't like your personal playstyle or the way your team plays...? Who gives a shit, haha. My frenemy Pardy has been ruining my life as a defender for going on ten years now, yet I wouldn't want to see anything other than a 173 cm, 72 kg "speedy boi" coming down my wing when I play TIKI Talk. Variety is the spice of life and I can't be the only one who still remembers players like Kriketski, Maise and Alex28 using strong, powerful builds at the Elite level. Krike with his 6000+ hits as a Grinder (I think?) during his time with JYP, Maise as the tall, lanky Grinder center you couldn't take the puck away from and Alex as the massive Powerforward using golden Truculence and hitting everything in sight on the forecheck. I, and I think many others in this community, still remember these players and their builds to this day for one simple reason: they dared to be the different. And they didn't just do it as a gimmick to be special and different, they did it in a way that made them incredibly effective for their teams - and forced other teams to adapt to their style. Hell, why NOT a PWF winger with Golden Unstoppable Force at the Elite level? I for one would love to see someone try it and force all the other teams to adapt to their unique playing style. Personally, that would be enough to get me to tune into a broadcast. People are arguing that certain traits would make the games unwatchable, and they might have a point with a few of them (mainly Tipper), whereas I'd argue that it has become so goddamn boring to see the exact same builds and traits being used by literally everyone.

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It sucks big time that you guys are forcing Oljefondet to play in a higher division than they feel they belong in. And the result of this is that they decided to not play at all in the pre-cup. My team is actually having a vote if we should withdraw before we play any games to show support for Oljefondet. I know we are unknown players in my team but maybe more teams will follow. I know that we will get punished if we do but what you guys do is wrong.

Omaa paskuutta on turha selitellä -JohtajaTheGreat why this same whine happen every year, just shut Up n play, this is no proffesional for anyone, we dont get 50k per year for playing NHL , this is just hobby which cost us some coin’s, past 15y everytime game n gamepaly Has been broken someway, so what has really change in 15y ? Always some ppl are unhappy no matter what u do, has been last few thousand year, so what has really change ?

You tried to ban nothing - people went nuts. You tried to ban a few - people went nuts. You haven't tried to ban everything - try it, people might go nuts. There was a sauna-cup a while back where everything except elite edges was banned. No idea about the feedback but some of the players who participated in that tournament have suggested it so I can only assume it wasn't that bad. My opinion: Ban everything or nothing. If i had the power to decide, i would go with ban everything just to try it out.

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I have to ask why it will never happen? Every X-Factor is kinda silly in their own way, some being more stupid than others obviously. Anyway, now when EA "removed" Elite Edges, this should be the perfect spot to just ban them all from competitive gameplay, and end this f*cking stupid shitshow circle happening again year after year. No? If I would need to choose, I would go with "ban all" or "don't ban nothing" at this point. I have to agree with message above 100%. I take Kenus side with the decision they've made. He clearly informed 5-6 weeks ago they will probably go with "no-bans" if enough people doesn't stand out. Players saying it was "off-season" is just poor take for me. I understand that, but it's just not enough. Should SG have reminded us about this article? Yes sure, but it's still impossible to blame SG about it or attack towards them. Current situation is our fault and some self-reflection could be made here and there. What makes me the most tired are the toxic messages with zero value on this topic. Don't overreact, sit down, deep breath, analyze the shit and write your thoughts as respectfully as possible and the most important thing, justify your sayings. I rarely take part in conversations in this scene nowadays, and that's mostly because of the quality of the conversation and "cheap shots". Maybe I'm getting too old. And for SG, I also suggest to not make things harder what they really are. And with that I mean, if majority wants fe.; Big Tipper to be banned and no-one is against it, SG should have some balls to make quick LA decisions inside week or two. It's not that hard after all. We don't need 2 or 3 months long "testing ground" season to see if the shit is brown when we clearly know the answer already.

just to say something different: using big tipper is the only way I can score a goal! SAVE BIG TIPPER!!!

Basing your team's playstyle around Big Tipper deflections requires exactly 0% hockey IQ and creativity. It's lame, boring and extremely overpowered. So, if SportsGamer wants their on-ice product to be borderline unwatchable for viewers and not enjoyable for the players, go on ahead and keep Big Tipper allowed. To summarize: BAN IT.

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