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Back-up players? HAR5KI and Januri? First is just Harski who is pure fill player on your roster and Januri is in the army. Cut the bullshit and stop blaming others for your issues. JohtajaVirtanen played in playoffs but sometimes you need more than one guy, or more than 6 players, to play this god damn game. Get real boys.23 points
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NHLGamers, In the case that occured between SJK eSports and Written in the Stars in the ECL Elite semi-finals, the following outcome has been agreed on: No extra time will be given. Before the ECL 5 Playoffs, the Staff took heavy criticism for lack of clarity in terms of deadlines. Not only in ECL 5, but in previous ECLs as well. Since the beginning of the ECL 5 playoffs, extra effort has been made to improve the clarity of that information. Therefore, the statement "Each pairing, Elite or Pro, must be finished within 7 days from today, meaning last evening to play games is December xxth. Don't expect any extensions!" has been included whenever possible (including in all Elite playoff news communication). Furthermore, a notification above the chatbox with the exact information of the last day to play has been visible for the past two rounds. We have not seen any valid arguments as to why extra time should be given. Precedent Precedent is a legal term that is defined as "an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances.". In the ECL 5 Playoffs, there is a precedent for this type of case. In the Pro playoff matchup between Gotham Knights and J P T J, Gotham was awarded 2 WO wins due to J P T J not being able to produce a lineup on the assigned day. Ruling to give extra time in this case would suggest that teams are not equal and that the rules do not have the same meaning to all teams. This is not true for the ECL. Both Captains were lacking in communication The fact that LA received this information on the day of the last scheduled playoff date is the reason for this verdict taking so long. Always remember, if you are experiencing trouble scheduling games, getting in touch with LA as early as possible is not only encouraged - it is also expected as these decisions need to be discussed thoroughly before deciding. Availability This is LAs understanding of the availability of both teams: Wednesday: SJK available, SKY unavailable Thursday: SJK available, SKY unavailable Friday: SJK available, SKY unavailable Saturday: SJK available, SKY unavailable Sunday: SJK unavailable, SKY available Monday: SJK available, SKY available - 4 games played Tuesday: SJK available, SKY available - but at different times and could not come to an agreement on starting time This gives a total of SJK available on 6/7 days and SKY available on 3/7 days for the round. If we look at traditionally scheduled game days (Monday, Wednesday, Thursday) SJK was available on 3/3 days and SKY on 1/3 days. The LAs understanding of availability is based on official communication from both teams with regards to this case. In the case of SKY, their extended unavailability is also understood to be due to one of their preferred forwards (Bugimir) being away on vacation until Sunday the 3rd of December - information that was communicated to LA at an earlier point when SKY appealed for more time to play their games in the previous round versus Dynasty. Furthermore, FlyerKungen's (SKY captain) very public comments on a previous news story gave the clear impression that SKY were not interested in playing any playoff games without their top 6 lineup and that leniency in the form of extra days should be given to ensure the integrity of the league. In this context the 8-player roster limit, that has been part of the ECL rules since the first season, was questioned as well. LA argues that the integrity of the league is ensured by teams following the deadlines that have been communicated with the utmost clarity throughout the entire playoffs. A key aspect to meeting these deadlines is keeping a healthy roster size, which the vast majority of teams in all divisions have been working on. Running a 6-player core roster accompanied by two "dummy" players turned out to be the main dealbreaker in this case. RULING SJK is awarded 2 WO wins and moves on to the ECL Elite finals. The decision rests heavily on the amount of days both teams were available as that is the only valid parameter this case could possibly be ruled on - once the option of "extra time" was precluded. CONCLUSIONS Walkover wins in the playoffs are never a good thing, no matter what round or division. However, having a League Administration that sticks to rules and announcements and treats all of the teams equally builds trust in the platform. While things still weren't perfect throughout ECL 5, we are adjusting parameters every season to eradicate the remaining hiccups. This means we will need to ask you some questions before the start of ECL 6: Is the 8-player limit a well-deemed rule? Are 7 days enough to complete possibly 7 games in a single playoff round? Do we need to take an entirely different approach to scheduling and enforcing deadlines? An additional post announcing the Elite finals will be released, but finalists Aapon Taikasauva and SJK can start scheduling their games. League Administration18 points
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Good decision. There is rules what need to follow. If LA don't follow the rules why someone is writing the rules then?17 points
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Oh well, ggs. I will start by saying that this wasn't in any way Flyerkungen's fault. Guy's getting all the shit thrown at him even though he was busting his ass off trying to get the games played. Did all he could and does not deserve any of this shit. (Martindale, eat shit) I arrived from my infamous trip to Miami on Saturday/Sunday night(was great!) and we were ready to play from Sunday onwards. Btw Johtajavirtanen took my spot on LW against Dynasty. So we missed two potential gamedays in semi-finals first week(Wednesday/Thursday) because come on, no one plays on weekends. TWO DAYS. Then we were available on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. At this point unfortunate scheduling things got into play as SJK:s goalies couldn't play before 22cet on couple nights and we had some workshift problems aswell. Everything was negotiated peacefully and both teams had zero problem on agreeing to play today. I understand that it is over the deadline and a punishable action on some situations. But seriously. In ECL semi-finals, when both teams have no problem with the situation and have ABSOLUTELY no desire for walkovers. This was clearly LA:s attempt to brush their soft imago, which is understandable and NEEDED to get people respect the rules. But in my personal opinion this was not the right circumstance to make that move. Yeah, I can take the blame on myself for missing 2 gamedays while sipping pina coladas. I thought we had appropriate amount of time left to finish the series which was 4 _potential_ gamedays. There's just always unfortunate surprises. I won't argue that this wasn't the right call according to the rulebook. I just believe that this was not the right call according to the circumstances. Good luck SJK13 points
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What is this shitstorm? Stop crying, i can understand the fact that this case has different opinions. You forced LA to make the call, live with it. Next time make sure you have enough players in your roster so you are capable of playing the games. Last thing you should do is to attack against LA, theyre here to enforce the rules, and its the shittiest "job" you can do here, but someone has to do it. If you want improvements to rules, do pass them on privately. You aint getting anything done better for next time by talking bullcrap.13 points
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So you mean top teams should have different rules compared to pro-lite teams. Wake the fk up.12 points
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Then fucking give him all the details?? How can they make a decision if you seemingly hold pertinent information from them, dear fucking jesus christ on a bike, for the love of god never go near a court-room. (Fade in) Interior: Court-room somewhere in Helsinki [F=Mr Kungen, J=Judge] ----- J: So is that everything? F: Yes J: Okay, well in that case I'm sentencing you to two years imprisonment for being useless. F: Ohhhh myyyyy godddddddddddd you dumb Judge.... why didn't you ask me this question? I would've told you this information that could've changed your outlook on this situation. J: Are you kidding me? F: No, stop being incompetent and do your job J: ???????????12 points
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Well, then you should sign more players to your team12 points
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Obviously I'm very sad about this result. It would have felt way more better to try to reach finals by yourself, not by staff decision. Both teams agreed to play today, if we get permission from staff. They didn't gave it for us and it feels very bad and kinda wrong in this situation, but I also understand it. If they would have given us permission, every team in the future would have used this as an example to get extra time. I'm glad I didn't have to make this decision. Staffs would have received hate anyway, whatever they would have decided. What an ungrateful job to have right now. In the end I feel really bad for SKY, I know how big thing this is for them and how much they have trained.10 points
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This probaly wasn't easy call to make and it's never fun handing walkovers in the playoff stage, but I think it had to be done to ensure teams will stick to schedules in the future.10 points
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NHLGamers, We have reached the semifinals phase of the ECL 5 Pro Playoffs and here are the playoff pairings and framework: FRAMEWORK Each pairing must be finished within 7 days from today, meaning last evening to play games is December 12th. Don't expect any extensions! All pairings are to be played in a best-of-7 series (teams on the left side below play home first) PRO PLAYOFFS Here is how last round ended: #1 Unlucky Boys HC vs. #8 THE UNITED KNIGHTS [4-0] #2 Nordic Stars vs. #7 Falun Coal Miners [3-4] #3 Gotham Knights vs. #6 Pata Hellalla [3-4] #4 Inter Iceland vs. #5 Evolution [2-4] This gives us the following pairings for the semifinals: #1 Unlucky Boys HC vs. #7 Falun Coal Miners #5 Evolution vs. #6 Pata Hellalla We offer our congratulations to Unlucky Boys HC, Falun Coal Miners, Evolution and Pata Hellalla for making the "final four" of ECL 5 Pro. All four teams will - at the very least - have the opportunity to play for a spot in Elite for ECL 6. An announcement from the LA department regarding the SJK-SKY case and the ECL finals will be released shortly. @The_Alpha_Furyan for NHLGamer.com8 points
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#farssi Tbh, with or without Bugimir, we were not able to play on Wednesday or thursday. We didnt have six players, our back ups were unavailable. What I can do then? We just didnt have six players. Case closed. Friday and saturday, weekend? When friday and saturday has been gamedays? Really? We were able to play sunday, monday and tuesday. Every fuckin those three days at least @ 21-22:30 FIN. After all that, you are giving WOs? Wtf. Both teams wanted one xtra day. You cant just give WOs in this case. This was not SKYs or SJKs fault, sometimes your real life schedules does not fit with opponent as you want. Do you really think SJK or us wanted this? Two teams respecting each other and asking more time! Driving same thing together. Staff, are you afraid to give one more night bc you dont wanna get shit from old foxes? Im disappointed. Can we switch LA?8 points
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I want to say my thanks to my Captain and best friend @FlyerKungen . Its seems easy to hate him here because of his way to talk about things in public but to me he has always been such a wonderful person and hard working captain. You guys here can keep hating and rising your name here by talking negative words about us, but... To me this NHL competing is just loving the game and challenge what opponents gives on the road. Like Niki Lauda said in movie called Rush: ''Wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from his friends.'' And that being said I want to give all my love and respect to the greatest enemies in this game (as teams SJK and GRR) and (as players @Dominointi and @Penatski). Even though this thing happend, both of you have earned my respect and admiration for winning the cup. So keep working, keep improving see you in the next season.7 points
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There are so many teams that are trying to upgrade their team, and even more teams that should do it but for some reason they are not doing it. Here's one low profile guy you should definitely try out if you want to make your team better - especially in Pro, and why not in Elite as well. I know that TIKI's defense might have not been in the spotlight for certain reasons but give this guy a chance and you'll see why he has been playing in the Elite for few seasons now. Good luck vesku!7 points
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People can talk about respect for the league and respect for the game all they want, and how it is ridiculous that LA gives out WO’s at this stage in a ”competitive eSports league”, but respect for the league is a two-way street - you and me, as players, should respect the league enough to have the games played within the allocated time period.6 points
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1. Teams can ask 1-2 days extra to play games during playoffs. If playoffs are on second round -> Thx it was so hard.5 points
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Boi, with all due respect, what the fuck are you even talking about?5 points
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Ask totalii, afterall he's one of the few that has gotten banned for breaking them before.4 points
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YES, and also Aapo isn´t even able to play tonight so the extra day wouldn´t have changed anything. This decision is just unbealivable.4 points
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Why is the comment section below the actual ruling the first time we hear from you about someone being in hospital? If there's a lot more that isn't told in this post, then it wasn't brought to our attention in the first place.4 points
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Hey you! YEAH YOU! your search for defensive RD is over, im right here and im looking for a club where to play next ecl. Last two seasons i played in ECL ELITE and it doesn't matter if your team is in elite,pro,lite just msg me! prefer finnish team. Msg here or psn: veskku4 points
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I just want to made it clear, SJK, SKY or me, didnt come to ask any special treatment. Never. We dont think we should get any. As ADETIKKI said, we are here to play and love this game. SKY & SJK were both prefering playing, instead of WOs. We tried to work together to get one night more. Bc ofc!! We wanna play, win or lose. Thats the only way, when we are in Elite Playoffs. Imo. Im just little bit confused why people was so much against it. Don't you wanna see these awesome playoff games played? Would people be jealous or something if that extra day would given? If yes, why? I understand there is rules, but we didn't made this on purpose with SJK. It wasn't our fault, it wasn't SJKs fault. And for last time, there was nothing to do with that first lineup. These cases are not very common in Elite Playoffs I think. In my eyes, in this situation and both teams driving same thing together.. little extra time would been understandable. Remember, this was friendly based writing... @ADETIKKI @Bugimir @s_w1ld_rus Thx to all my teammates! Your support atm is most important thing! Love ya!3 points
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Just sign fucking more player your team if you cant use same 6 member every day 24/7.3 points
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So that's the problem? We need to pay shitty captains to balls up scheduling. Genius!3 points
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Giving out WOs in Elite Semi-finals is a true tragedy for the league. Much shame to both teams that they could not reach an agreement to play all games in time, and forced LA:s hand. Giving extra time has been a focus of much criticism in earlier tournaments - and it seems popular demand made it self heard in the end. I hope every team takes note from this and recruit bigger rosters for coming seasons, beyond the 8 man MINIMUM requirement. That is my take on it.3 points
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”how to make scene bigger?” Giving WO’s in semifinals at ecl elite. +both teams agreed extra day i guess3 points
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L O L. So, SKYs backup player was in hospital wednesday-today and had 40 degrees fever so basically he could have not played. Also there is alot more that is not told in this post... Basically IMO this decision is unacceptable.3 points
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Hello. So i played for Lavetten last season and now the team have decided to split = i just become a free agent. Plays Rd. Defensive minded player. Contact me here or on Psn: Bortalaget Peace3 points
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Hi guys! Since we in Lavetten just decided to split the team I’m a free agent. Looking for a pro/elite team that is need of a LW/C. I think you can expect some points from my stick but also a really solid defense. https://nhlgamer.com/player.php?playerID=1020 Hit me up here or on PSN! Hadeeee3 points
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We've had some discussions in our team regarding the seeding system to the ECL playoffs. I just want to share our thoughts and hopefully start an interesting discussion. I'll keep it as short as I possibly can.. Problem The seeding system to the playoffs is based only on P/G (Points per game). Where you end up in the group doesn't matter at all. Suggestion Teams should be seeded by group placement first and secondly by P/G. Example LITE has 5 groups. The top teams in each group should be seeded 1-5, decided by P/G. The #2 in each group should be seeded 6-10, decided by P/G and so on...3 points
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I agree the Lite playoff system could use some tweaking though, good original post!3 points
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Carlsberg HC (Elite) Looking for one RD/LD for next ECL. Send msg PSN Patzlaf or here in NHLGamer @Joonas Paatiala and lets talk more!3 points
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Hola. lavetten player looking for team, C/LW good teamplayer with good offensiv and defensiv skills. Contact me here or on PSN: edhoolm97 HOCKEY!2 points
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Привет, RCL! На стало самое важное время для команд и их игроков, плей-офф! Первый сезон регулярки завершен. Хотелось бы прежде всего поблагодарить команды которые не попали в зону плей-офф. Вас мы будем ждать в следующем сезоне. Который будет после нового года. Будем стремится к максимально большому количеству команд! Не забываем записаться на наш розыгрыш в группе. Победитель и обладатель свитера с автографом Игоря Шестёркина будет назван 20 декабря 2017 года. Обладателем такого крутого подарка можешь стать именно ты! Ссылка: РОЗЫГРЫШ ПРИЗА ОТ RCL Теперь переходим к командам которые в зоне плей-офф! Команд в первом сезоне плей-офф будет 12. Те кто еще не знает, 4 первые команды автоматический попадают во второй раунд. Остальные 8 играют первый раунд. Игры играются до 4х побед. Первый раунд должен быть завершен до 10.12.2017 23:59 по московскому времени. Что бы зрителям было интересней следить мы для вас будем делать анонс на каждую пару плей-офф. Интересно думаю будет и самим участникам плей-офф. Список топ12: 1. Alliance HT 2. Prometheus 3. Nearbird Fighters 4. Sibir Hc 5. Rusty Bulls 6. GOOD JOB 7. Demons HT 8. Ice Phoenix 9. HC Russian Agressor 10. North West Battalion 11. TRAKTOR 12. HC CORSAIR Поздравляем всех с выходом в плей-офф! Давайте начнем наш анонс матчей. Первая пара: 5. Rusty Bulls - 12. HC CORSAIR На мой взгляд эта пара самая яркая в первом раунде плей-офф. Почему? Во первых, команда «корсаров» за все свое время существования попадает первый раз в плей-офф! Во вторых, они смогли вырвать две победы в регулярке, 3-4 в овертайме и 1-2 в основное время. Серия должна быть очень интересной. Конечно команда «расти буллс» при своем лучшем хоккее должна обыгрывать «корсаров» но что то мне подсказывает что «корсары» смогут вырвать победу в этой серии. «Корсары» из последних десяти матчей регулярки выиграли 9, «расти буллс» выиграли 7. Посмотрим как «корсары» проявят себя в своем первом раунде плей-офф. Я ставлю на «корсаров» 4-3. Вторая пара: 6. GOOD JOB - 11. TRAKTOR Команды встречались в середине регулярки. В тот раз команда «гуд джоб» смогла обыграть «трактористов» два раза, 3-1 и 4-0. «Гуд джоб» дали порадоваться своему сопернику только раз в этих матчах. Очень интересная статистика попала в глаза, забитые шайбы и пропущенные шайбы. Заброшенных шайб у команд почти одинаково, всего 7 шайб разница между ими. Но вот оборона у «гуд жоб» выглядет мощнее. У «гуд жоб» пропущено на 63 шайбы меньше. Сможет ли атака «трактористов» пройти оборону «губ жоб»? На это будет ответ в конце этой серии. Но я думаю что все таки «гуд жоб» выиграют серию 4-0. Третья пара: 7. Demons HT - 10. North West Battalion В своем первом сезоне команда «батальона» завоевывает место в плей-офф! Сенсация! Команды встречались в середине ноября. «Демоны» тогда выиграли два матча, 3-2 и 5-2. «Батальон» набрал не много оборотов в конце регулярки проиграв из последних десяти матчей всего раз. У «демонов» 4 поражения. В этой серии проблем с голами думаю не будет. Тут вопрос в другом, кто сможет лучше помочь своему голкиперу? Я думаю что с этим заданием лучше справиться команда «батальон», ставлю на них 4-2. Четвертая пара: 6. Ice Phoenix - 9. HC Russian Agressor После крутого старта команда «агрессоров» просто провалила финальную стадию регулярки. Из последних 10 матчей команда выиграла только раз. «Фениксы» в этом плане были по лучше и выиграли 5 раз. В сезоне обоим удалось выиграть раз, сначала «агрессоры» выигрывают 3-1 затем «фениксы» выигрывают в овертайме 3-2. На двоих у них пропущено 237 шайб. Тут вратарям придется хорошо потрудится что бы наиграть на сухарь. Что на вряд ли будет в этой серии. Серия должна быть очень плотной и думаю тут мы увидим не один овертайм. Сложно выбрать кто тут будет сильней, но все таки это нужно сделать. 4-3 «феникс» вырвет победу. Ну что подходим к финишу этой новости. Желаю всем участникам удачи! А во втором раунде уже ждут 4 команды: 1. Alliance HT 2. Prometheus 3. Nearbird Fighters 4. Sibir Hc Далеко не уходите! Скоро будут звезды шестой игровой недели. Ну и конечно же этим замечательным контентом мы вас будем радовать и в плей-офф! А пока подписывайтесь на нашу группу в вконтакте. С уважением, @MAYZIIX для NHLGamer.com2 points