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I still stand by my next comment that it's too late to make up a new division system and that we should just start a new season asap with the old system. BUT to give some feedback on your thoughts I would like to continue on your thoughts, Billy44205. In your original post you covered how to divide teams into different divisions. But I would like to take one step back and ask; how should the system look and work? I'm not against a division system but I think that there are some flaws that needs to be covered. My major isue is that teams in lower divisions won't get as inspired to play as they were before. Many "lower" teams will simply end up stop playing. Therefore, I think that IF we decide to implement a division system it would be best to divide it into ONE top division (division 1) and SEVERAL second divisions (division 2.1 2.2 2.3 and so on). This will make the top teams compete against each other as some of you guys want AND it will prevent "lower teams" to be placed at the bottom of a multi-divisioned system and loose the inspiration and will to play. How many teams from each division that are moved up/down after each season is a later issue though.

@Sandstrom Valuable feedback. I don't agree that the bottom teams would be discouraged by being placed in the lowest division. I am fully aware that there needs to be at least (and probably at most too) 3 divisions so that you can be out of division 1 while not being in the bottom division because of egos, but the bottom-level teams do not have such egos usually. From my experience of EHL tournaments those teams are discouraged when they lose all the time, too heavily too often, and if group stage takes a long time it's an aggravating factor. I guess I'd like feedback from actual members of low-end teams. For what it's worth, it is those guys who originally brought up the idea of multiple divisions to avoid un-fun beatings at the hands of NOS / PoF and the likes. But to tell the truth, I'd be more worried about the middle of the pack teams that have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that they're not in the top third of the community. Those guys will be the ones complaining the most imo, but open enough relegation/promotion spots and I think the pill will be easier to swallow even for them. In the end the biggest thing to take from your post imo is that you can do groups within a division system. It may be useful if too many teams apply for ECL, I think.

I came up with another mechanism for a type 3 system: teams keep their ranking as long as their managing trio remains the same. For instance, if a team finishes in division 1, even if almost all their players are changed, if the 3 managers are still on the team that team is in division 1 the next season. So basically a team is its 3 managers and the rest of the supporting cast does not matter when placing the team in one of the divisions. Now you can add rules to transfer ownership of a team to other players from a season to the next (like owner can only transfer his position to a previous assistant, assistant can only be a player on the team the previous season etc.). This is a team-based system that does not require individual-oriented features. Keep in mind though that as a system protects teams more and more it also weakens the accuracy of team placement in division according to skill. At this point I sort of wish NHLGamer staff would choose an option (or do the mental work to come up with their own system) and run with it, presenting the finished product to the community. Speaking of dictatorship, the division system also makes for a whole new range of punishments for infractions such as preventing individuals from joining a division 1 team for a season or whatever. So for the little Trump's and Putin's out there, that's something to look forward to, I guess...

I heavily agree on 2), it's important to create an entertaining tournament for everyone, whether it's the usual top 20 teams or a group of 8 people who bought the game 3 weeks ago. The only way to create this environment are divisions. One more thing, even if it may sound too ambitious to be true: They are also the only way to keep EASHL populated until after April/May each year, imo. EA is not doing anything to support that mode, and a growing community with easy ways for newcomers to engage could enhance the longevity of that game mode in general. After the tournament ended, we already received a bunch of new registrations, and there are still more 6s teams out there which we should try to get involved (no matter how bad they may be at the moment).

@debi_85 I'm cool with people who are on the side of I like groups better don't change anything. At least you have an opinion and you say it. With that said... 1 ) I don't think it's just newcomers who want divisions. It has been talked about since the old CH.net website in like 2013 or so, and on PS3 you guys have had an EHL divided between elite and the other one. Also, I don't agree with the fact that old timers are a bigger deal than newcomers. 2 ) I don't think you can speak for the bad teams and players if you are not one of them. I have seen enough bad teams quit tournaments because it wasn't fun getting killed all the time. Also, sure you may learn more from losing to good teams than beating bad teams but improving the level of teams is not what we're going for here. It's more about giving a more consistently entertaining gaming experience for the most players. 3 ) Divisions seem so obviously better than regular tournaments to me, I didn't think I would need to defend them more than what I had initially written. It's one thing to say "we don't have time for divisions next ECL", it's another entirely when you say "I like groups better". 4 ) I think there are too many people who are stuck in the old CH mindset, and lack ambition and vision for the future of this community. Why is 3 tournaments a year worse than 2? Why can't we play league-type tournaments and Cup-type tournaments in parallel? You know, mixing things up to keep interest high. Are creativity and drive to improve only reserved for when you play NHL videogames, guys?

Theres no point to try play ower 2 tournaments in Year/or but divisions. It will lose the willing on winning for sure and winners will be forgotten faster or how i should sayit, but i think you will understand it. 1or2 tournaments in year is totally fine. it will give you the best what game can give you and your team. I hope ADMINS dont chanse this thing to much, because newcomers want it different and we have useto play like we have and its totally fine in that way. If you ask "topteams" im pretty sure they want to play ECL like it has been past years (ehl) and some one sayed "itS frustrating to play against lower teams & win 7-0" well i dont think so. i think its just a good experience to "lower" teams to play against good opponents in tournament . i think better teams need lower teams and lower betters its only make it better. But i dont totally say that division idea is bad, but im pretty sure it will be hard maybe if you but elite & div it maybe would work. ps. this i kind of answer to "beeoo" and all in community Peace!