ECL ’26: Spring - Ability Bans

[iSvamp]

The important thing is probably what Furyan wrote above.
In this thread, Kenu says that it is likely a full ability ban for the upcoming season.
Like Furyan wrote, we need a confirmation on this as soon as possible.
Or a decision in another direction, as long as the decision is finalized so people can start practicing the right way.
But as it looks right now, the latest information should be understood as ECL Spring being played completely without abilities.

[Saviinainen]

Yeah there has read:

"As we said in the original news story, the plan is to move away from Abilities for the Spring season, as that seems to be what the majority is asking for"

but no one have said earlier like "next ECL Spring season is going to be played without abilities. So there hasnt been clear information about that yet. There can always be plans but there hasnt been any 100% confirmation about that. And like we have now seen there is people who have changed their minds about banning all because they have had time to test and see things.

And i havent seen any kind of voting polls up there so who is that majority who is asking that? In these conversations there has been mainly same guys writing their opinions but that still really small part from whole community who are playing active this game and sportsgamer tournaments. And once again we are coming to that part where i personally know like many of players are afraid to take part to these conversations because there is so much offensive and toxic behaviour if you are having different opinion than some of higher division players. 

So imo public voting poll is only right way to solve this so we are able to get as much people as possible to take part this if we are aiming for that "majority" of people. Now that "majority" is small part from conversations or behind the scene talks. At least it feels like that. 

[iSvamp]

1 timme sedan, Saviinainen säger:

Yeah there has read:

"As we said in the original news story, the plan is to move away from Abilities for the Spring season, as that seems to be what the majority is asking for"

but no one have said earlier like "next ECL Spring season is going to be played without abilities. So there hasnt been clear information about that yet. There can always be plans but there hasnt been any 100% confirmation about that. And like we have now seen there is people who have changed their minds about banning all because they have had time to test and see things.

And i havent seen any kind of voting polls up there so who is that majority who is asking that? In these conversations there has been mainly same guys writing their opinions but that still really small part from whole community who are playing active this game and sportsgamer tournaments. And once again we are coming to that part where i personally know like many of players are afraid to take part to these conversations because there is so much offensive and toxic behaviour if you are having different opinion than some of higher division players. 

So imo public voting poll is only right way to solve this so we are able to get as much people as possible to take part this if we are aiming for that "majority" of people. Now that "majority" is small part from conversations or behind the scene talks. At least it feels like that. 

And that was the point. Tell us what the plan is and lock it in.
Or base it on a democratic decision based on what the players want. That is the best option.

Skip a poll. Send a DM to all participating teams from ECL Winter and let the captains collect votes from their teams without pressure from intimidating top players. And let a democratic decision remain a democratic decision.

[Saviinainen]

32 minuuttia sitten, iSvamp kirjoitti:

And that was the point. Tell us what the plan is and lock it in.
Or base it on a democratic decision based on what the players want. That is the best option.

Skip a poll. Send a DM to all participating teams from ECL Winter and let the captains collect votes from their teams without pressure from intimidating top players. And let a democratic decision remain a democratic decision.

That DM to all participating teams from ECL winter could work too and everyone is able to give their votes inside of teams too because there can be different thoughts between own team players. So votes are going to be calculated from every player, not as a team. Good idea for option @iSvamp 👍🏻

Most important thing is that like whatever the decision is in the end, rules and bans are same in every division

Edited Saturday at 08:26 PM by Saviinainen

[Bantubox]

Ban them all. If you want a great one timer, just put your points into it. It makes no sense that you have 75 slapshot power but can launch blazing onetimers with the perks. 

[Julius2412]

The game is made to be played with x-factors and there are certain animations that only activates with x-factors (like wrist shots), that are in my opinion even more important then the perks themself.

Playing without perks feels actually well balanced and you cant win games by only spamming backhand beauties, but I have to be afraid that it will affect too much to the style of play.

It can make game even more dependent about fast breaks and broken play situations then it is already. Just waiting in front of your goalie and making it impossible to pass to middle is going to be pretty common playstyle then. Of course good players find a way and skill cap still matters. But does it make playing more boring in long sight?

For me I would like to find something in between, like only using golden x-factors. I think they dont affect and boost too much to the players stats but still gives you the animations to shooting or poke checking! In my opinion it would kinda give the best out of both sides of the table. No advantige for only relying on x-factors.
 

[Hydeee_24]

I don’t mind if you ban all the elite ones but at least keep the golden abilities or we will see only the same builds for everyone, only turtle defending, etc.

Heard some comments that people have played leagues like ITHL with no abilities and ”the game feels so much better” but the fact is that for example ITHL -> there is like 0.75 teams which can really defend well as a team so in my opinion it’s not giving the best information which is working and which is not.

I hope we get some decisions about this as soon as possible!

 

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Hydeee_24

[Pekedipeks]

Yeah, Julius and Hyde are perfectly on point. I feel like having same ability bans but only gold allowed is perfect balance so we dont have any overpowered elite (or blue) abilities but also would not change meta to boring turtle hockey.

And yes i also agree that most fair and efficient way to hear opinion from community is to DM captains instead of having public vote. But however its done, democratic decision is important.👍