Player Ability Bans - ECL '25 Season Discussion

[Andjovis]

BanTheMall +1

[Bombo Clap]

Ban them all +1

[Fidelvv]

Banthemall +1

[Ruiskukka59]

BanThemAll +1

[Hannu]

BanThemAll +1

[I3Isjodin]

BanThemAll +1

[HambergD]

På 2024-10-25 på 13:40, markalla2 säger:

After giving it some thought and reading others' takes on this... I'm also team BanThemAll. And here's the reasoning why:

The whole X-Factor ability shenanigans were added to the game in order to highlight superstar players with their superstar abilities. I totally understand that concept from an offline mode or online versus point of view, it's a great addition and does what it's supposed to do: recognize greatness. But in WOC game modes, we don't need that at all - everybody can already spend their XP however they see fit under the ruleset of preset builds and be the superstar they want (even though I'd love to see the return of the old custom build system). In WOC the X-Factors don't make anyone a superstar in the way they were intended in the first place if evvvveryone on the ice has them. What the X-Factors bring in 6s especially is instead

1. lower skill gap
2. RNG to a vast variety of in-game scenarios
3. an even stronger meta for each wingers, centers, defencedudes & goalies where everyone exploits weaknesses in the game

Therefore a competitive setting with no superpower abilities would balance not only the meta but also the dreadful RNG. EA made the decision on our behalf to remove EE from WOC, which, if you think about it for a second, is actually is a huge step towards the direction I'm suggesting here. And absolutely nobody is complaining about it. Now it's all about finishing what EA started this year and play without the honestly quite unnecessary X-Factor abilities in 6s.

Ban them all! 

[banglahoor]

BanThemAll +1

[pakjiz]

banthemall

 

[lutuniemi]

DontBanAnything

[minokin]

BanThemAll +1

But, potentially unpopular opinion for future games:

Bring back the pre-made builds from NHL 16 or don't have any builds at all. I personally do not like when the outcome potentially gets decided on your skills of building your character. One may argue that you instead move the responsibility for the meta to the developers but hear me out

I draw my eyes to how a game like Rocket League survives - the meta building comes mainly from how the game is played and how skilled you are at handling the mechanics. I am aware that the comparison is not fair due to wildly different games and I do know that the biggest deciding factor to the outcome in our game is how good you and your team plays/can handle the mechanics, but I want to catch the jist of it

I want a game where the competitive scene has as little intervention from manipulated stats, RNG and other factors that can be manipulated as possible. Of course RL has their tweaking to stats and what not, but I find it more controlled since the player can only manipulate it to a very limited extent

Of course there are other ways to get an edge - like how you set up your game, which hardware you use etc but what I personally don't want is a game where the actual game is to have a setup master race even though it is inevitable. But maybe minimizing it makes for a more even playfield

[Kozek77]

BanThemAll +1

[svetidaje]

BanThemAll +1 

[Janikka]

1 tunti sitten, minokin kirjoitti:

BanThemAll +1

But, potentially unpopular opinion for future games:

Bring back the pre-made builds from NHL 16 or don't have any builds at all. I personally do not like when the outcome potentially gets decided on your skills of building your character. One may argue that you instead move the responsibility for the meta to the developers but hear me out

I draw my eyes to how a game like Rocket League survives - the meta building comes mainly from how the game is played and how skilled you are at handling the mechanics. I am aware that the comparison is not fair due to wildly different games and I do know that the biggest deciding factor to the outcome in our game is how good you and your team plays/can handle the mechanics, but I want to catch the jist of it

I want a game where the competitive scene has as little intervention from manipulated stats, RNG and other factors that can be manipulated as possible. Of course RL has their tweaking to stats and what not, but I find it more controlled since the player can only manipulate it to a very limited extent

Of course there are other ways to get an edge - like how you set up your game, which hardware you use etc but what I personally don't want is a game where the actual game is to have a setup master race even though it is inevitable. But maybe minimizing it makes for a more even playfield

I think Rocket League is about as close as you can get to a pure skill-based game in anything remotely similar to NHL. I know a lot of people think a hockey game should have a lot of randomness to it because it's in the nature of the sport, but personally I wish EA took a page out of Psyonix's book to better cater to those of us dreaming of an unadulterated competitive experience where outcomes are determined almost exclusively by our actions (of course some other variables are inevitable, such as how lag compensation is implemented in the netcode).