sure, I understand, it is not easy as a situation, in any case someone is dissatisfied, this case is particular because they were in the same group, therefore the fact of taking advantage of a weaker group decays, and perhaps in this specific case the fact had to be evaluated that being in the same group the Karkirysty had to be chosen in the lite qualifications because they finished in front of the Gleumes Hockey Krefeld in the regular season, it is also true that if you look at the head-to-head matches being in the same group, the Gleumes Hockey Krefeld won both head-to-head matches, what I mean is that perhaps this "solidarity" rule should be updated by inserting as a first requirement in the case of the same group, position during the regular season, then head to head, and then victories in the playoffs, all to make it as correct as possible effort made during a long season by the participating teams, it is not a criticism but only a discussion in order to improve rare what already exists, because if I put myself in the shoes of Karkirysty who had a very good season I would feel sad and maybe they could deserve the lite qualifications as best second instead of seeing the best third who finished the regular season behind them be rewarded in their place, but I understand what you mean, and as a basic reasoning there can be, but maybe you can improve a little, that's all, thanks for the discussion, it was very interesting