JakePlay77

Great post!! Agree everything on this. I would like also to thank for the past tournaments this community I have participated. I have moved on to ITHL so people who move there also we play there again. It was real sad the story of Sportsgamer has to end this way it did.

In case of bankcrupty, the only way players who are entitled to prize pool money will get what Sports Gamer Oy ows them if they are biggest recievers in bankcrupt situation. But if there is lenders that Sports Gamer Oy ows more then they are the priority in case of bankcrupty. But most important from Sports Gamer Oy is honesty to players what really has happened. And also it is priority to publish financial statements to PRH from 2023-2024. If they are not published who will believe what Sports Gamer Oy executives say? No one. I won´t believe a word what they say until I see those documents myself. I am not one of those who Sports Gamer Oy ows any money. I am just on side of those players who Sports Gamer Oy ows money. I want justice to happen and players recieving their money. And if it is not possible in case of bankcrupty, I want at least full, honest reveal of Sports Gamer Oy on this matter. It is not very good policy them not to publish financial statements from 2023-2024 and then it is revealed that some players that are entitled to their prize money have not got those money what they deserve. So I am urging: All the facts and figures public from Sports Gamer Oy finances. That is the only way they can get our trust back. People - including Kenu - have done great over the years in this community organizing ECL, FCL etc. I hate to see this financial dishonesty will loose our trust to these fine people. So facts on the table as soon as possible. The missing financial statements public to PRH.

They are at the moment but one day they will be removed from there. There is thousands of companies in that register. PRH removes regularly some of them who have not sent those documents. But however, the reason Sports Gamer Oy have not sent financial statements to PRH has most likely something to do that they have not paid these prize moneys. The company who operates correctly sends financial statements to PRH. If they are not sent something is wrong with accounting and operations of the company. Simple as that.

They have not sent financial reports to PRH. That is why they are not there. You can´t request those from PRH on Sports Gamer Oy financial reports 2023-2024 because they are not sent there. That is really serious offence according to Finnish limited company law. Those documents must be available to everyone who wish to have them. In PRH there is available only documents from 2021 and 2022 but not others. It is simple as that. They are not requiered to provide financial documents only to investors and lenders. They should be public to everyone who is interested to have them. That is the fact. I am working in accounting and know this law of accounting and limited companies etc.

According to the limited company law every limited company should have shareholder list and it should be available to anyone if requested. In Finland operating limited company is (should be) visible so there are many regulations these companies must obey. Shareholder list is one of them and also publishing the finacial statement annually to PRH for available to everyone who are interested in it. Sports Gamer Oy is breaking now at least one regulation which is that the financial statements are not public for past two years.

You can download kaupparekisteriote from https://virre.prh.fi/novus/home?execution=e1s2 the same place where supposed to be company´s financial statements available too. From kaupparekisteriote you can see all the members of the board and CEO´s name (if company has CEO, small companies don´t need one according to regulations). Those members of the board and CEO are necessarily not the same who are shareholders of the company but usually in small businesses they are the same. But as a member of the board and CEO you don´t have to own any shares to be there. I must say that I agree that this Sportsgamer issue is real suspicious now especially when there are no 2023-2024 financial reports available in public. I also not blame Kenu who has done great job in Sportsgamer throughout years. Problem is elsewhere. The general operation of Sports Gamer Oy is suspicious and needs to be revealed throughly.

Good points @Virtual_Saku It is not as simple as it might look. But I think the full reveal of where the money has gone should be done by Sportsgamer owners and those in charge of accounting. And those players entitled to their prize money should get them. And because limited companies - like Sportsgamer is - should send their financial statements every financial year to PRH as a public documents. Sportsgamer has not done that in terms of financial years 2023 and 2024. Those financial statements should have been public ages ago: 2023 public during year 2024 and last years statement earlier this year. This is serious matter. Sportsgamer should send those reports to PRH immediately. That is regulation in Finnish limited company law. I hope all this will clear out in satisfactory way. But however, this has already damaged seriously trust how things are handled here by the owners of Sportsgamer.

Yes. Financial statements of Sportsgamer from financial years 2023 and 2024 are not there like they supposed to be long time ago.

All financial statements should be sent to PRH by every limited liability companies in Finland: https://prh.fi/fi/index.html These documents are public so they can be bought from that PRH site. From those documents you should be able to see where the money goes in every company whose financial statements are sent there including Sportsgamer. 2025 is not there yet because the financial year is 1.1-31.12. so 2025 information should be there in next spring but 2023 and 2024 should be there already.

Although, personally I am not one of those who are waiting their prize money but I am still - as a member of this community and participated in tournaments previously and considering participating in future - interested what is going on with this matter. I would like to see public statement on the reasons of this to show public visibility on explaining what has happened and why those prize money have not been paid to these players who are entitled to recieving them. Like the original post mentioned: "The continued silence or vague communication on this matter damages trust across the community and sets a dangerous precedent for future events. This situation demands accountability." and also " Prize pool payments are not a courtesy — they are contractual obligations.". Although, I am not now and propably in future one that is recieving any prize money from competitions, I am also interested to see the statement what has happened. My future participations are dependable on how visible this operation is here and how these things are handled. I also expect public update as a member of this community. Silence is worse than telling the truth what really has happened.

I think you should consider using this Summer Cup-type Draft-format in regular ECL of course combined with regular, traditional team registering. There could be separate Draft-period between the end of team registration and beginning of season for example one week. This system in addition to that traditional way could bring new players easier to ECL and help also older players to find a team. Of course, there can be unsuccessful drafts (player who won´t fit in team) but there can also be unsuccessful player recruting in traditional team building. To organizers: think about that feedback on drafts in ECL.

Summer Cup sounds good. Personally not played much NHL in this version. This would be an ideal for me to get in form on NHL for NHL26. Considering participating. Pace 2 games per week sounds realistic for me.

I also like the leaderboards in HUT. In each mode (Rivals, Wildcard and Squad Battles) there are separate leaderboards as you all know. That is great for me because it saves time updating Excel stats which I did previously. Now the records are there in a game - not just the overall record which has always been there but this new which records separately each mode. Big 👍 to EA for that.

I have played so far only HUT about 30 games including Rivals, Squad Battles and mostly Wildcard-mode. I was very interested on trying that new mode whether it meets my expectations - and it did. Very interesting mode but I must say I expected initially full three period games. But on the other hand one of it´s ideas I guess is that you can play many short games and gain rewards in short period time. That is in a way good. Better mode than HUT Rush was which has been removed. In Rivals I think the format should be similar than that in EA Sports FC. Placement games should be removed and the format should be based on winning streaks. With that good players will progress fast to upper divisions although all will begin from lower divisions at first. But it is good that Rivals is added to that new XP progression system which I think is great. Gameplay is smooth and what impressed me the quality of AI games. I think there is major improvement in AI and now it is fun also to play against it. In previous versions I think that was not the case. I have not encountered any bugs except when I scored in Rivals the replay showed the previous goal by the opponent. But in general I liked the game and did not use all the 10 hour trial so I bought the Deluxe Edition and continued playing without time limit. I must say it has been in some previous years that game has felt good at first but not so good in few months. Hopefully this feeling on game remains whole year. Message to EA: keep this level at least - don´t adjust too much on gameplay. The game feels fun to play now.

Thanks for this @Kenu ! Looks promising. Can´t wait to try myself soon on 10 hour trial. Since NHL 25 World Championships were cancelled I was wondering if there will be anything that replaces that for me. Looks like Wildcard-mode can be that but it remains to be seen how it feels to play it. But in overall HUT certainly looks fresh this year.

That was great breakdown by KenuFHR and Sopuli04 on NHL 25 trailer and some new features of the game. Personally thinking that those are interesting but it has been in previous years similar thing. I mean, there has been some great looking improvements that have not worked when the game has been released and community has trashed them totally. But I think points to EA that they are genuinely attempting to make the game fresh. Personally though, I think the gameplay is important but so is the content. I would more revamp the content than the gameplay. The best gameplay is useless if there is limited content. That is the case in eFootball which has way better gameplay than FIFA/EA Sports FC but limited good content. UFL which is on the progess of development (and should be released in December) has similar thing. Great gameplay but no content. As for NHL I would bring Competitive Seasons back in HUT and revamp the Rivals similar to that of EA Sports FC UT Rivals. Also Champs format similar to UT in EA Sports FC. In World of Chel I would minimise all those game modes and focus on 6vs6 club games and in addition only 6vs6 drop-in but way less all casual modes. In 6vs6 club games I would change Club Finals to Champs-like tournament. In divisions the teams are gaining points to qualify to Champs which is for one week only. The teams can use their collectible in any weekend they like just like in Champs in 1vs1. But looking forward in EA Play 10 hour trial to try new game. I expect that soon because the game is released in Oct 4th and Deluxe Edition early access is September 27th. So the trial will be before that as it has been in previous years.

Onnistunut turnaus eilen. Viisi osallistui ja pelasimme yksikertaisen sarjan. Sarjan voittaja pääsi suoraan finaaliin. 2-5 sijoittuneet pelasivat kerrasta poikki puolivälierät ja niiden voittajat pelasivat paikasta finaaliin. Mukavaa pelaamista hyvässä hengessä. Kaikki paikallaolleet olivat tyytyväisiä turnaukseen ja toivoivat jatkoa niiden järjestämiseen tuolla samassa paikassa. Enemmän osallistujia tosin toivottavasti jatkossa.

Ilmoittautuneita on jo kuulemma useampia kun eilen kysyin. Jonkunlainen turnaus saadaan kasaan. Useampiakin saa vielä osallistua ja kuulemma viimehetkelläkin ennen turnauksen alkuakin pääsee mukaan ellei 40 osallistujan raja ole rikkoutunut mitä en usko että tulee tapahtumaan. Turnaukseen käytettävä aika on sivujen mukaan klo 16-22 välillä joten sekin rajoittaa sitä montako mukaan otetaan. Lisäksi kun pelit pelataan offlinessa samalla konsolilla niin muut joutuvat odottelemaan. Varmaan nykyisellä osallistujamäärällä (jos kaikki tulevat paikalle) pelataan yksinkertainen sarja ja pudotuspelit. Mikäli maksimimäärä osallistuisi niin varmaankin pudotuspelit pelataan suoraan koska aika ei ehkä riittäisi sarjamuotoiseen 6 tunnissa ja yhdellä konsolilla. Mutta iltapäivällä sen näkee millainen turnaus tulossa.

En voittanut. Hävisin otteluvoitoin 1-4.

Toivottavasti on ok mainostaa liveturnausta täällä. Sunnuntaina 16.6 on liveturnaus Super Bario-nimisessä pelibaarissa Helsingissä. Ilmoittautuminen täällä: https://superbario.com/tournaments Jos ei ole ok mainostaa niin tämän voi ylläpito poistaa/poistan itse mutta tiedoksi tuo jos on porukkaa jotka pääsevät paikalle tuolloin. Itse ilmoittauduin ja toivottavasti ei käy kuin kerran Arkade Barin turnauksessa jonne oli minun lisäkseni ilmoittautunut vain yksi. Turnaus kuitenkin tuolloin pelattiin paras seitsemästä sarjana.

I took the survey. I usually take various surveys of the games I play or these platforms like Sportsgamer. That´s chance to make difference rather than complain somewhere else.

Thanks for the reply @Kenu !!! I thought that is the reason. It is the pity that there is no crossplay in online versus. On the other hand, I think these 1vs1 tournament could be played using HUT. NHL 24 World Championship which is soon to be starting will be played using HUT. I also think that most people participating competitions in NHL 1vs1 (just like in EA Sports FC or eFootball etc. with Dream Team mode) have reasonable teams already so HUT can also be game mode used it tournaments in my opinion. There can also be restrictions in player card to be used if needed like max. OVR 85 or max. rated cards or something like that. But I am sure crossplay will be implemented in online versus in future. But it is not too big problem for not able to participate since I will begin my NHL 24 World Championship campaign next week like all the others participating in it.

There is registration open for this: https://sportsgamer.gg/leijonat In that description of the tournament it says it is for both platforms PS5 and Xbox Series S/X but in registration there is only for PS5. So is that only for PS5? And in rules there is only PS5 mentioned. So is Xbox Series S/X on that tournament? And I am meaning for 1vs1. There is crossplay in 4vs4 so there is Xbox possible but in terms of 1vs1 in online versus if Xbox is on there should be two separate tournaments. As far as I know there is no crossplay in online versus - only HUT 1vs1. Edit: My mistake, it says there in description that 1vs1 is only for PS5 and 4vs4 is for both. So all clear now.

I think 3 point is better because win in regular time should be more valuable than OT win.

Thanks!! 👍