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Well usually good players play in great teams and that's how you usually get to know those guys. + You said where I've been all these year(s) so that gives me a picture that he has been playing on top & elite level many years. So it matters a lot from ''knowing'' point of view. Greatest LW in tournament because he is point leader? Is that the argument? I don't agree with you if that's the case. Being greatest requires much more than scoring points in my opinion. Your argument for vatalisti is '' he is amazing D ''? I think both are great players and should have more recognition but you didn't bring much into this debate. 

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Nhl 15 didn't have eashl on ps4 and we didn't play on ps3 anymore. I agree and believe you that those overalls are probably inaccurate and that overall thing is pretty much made for fun and it's not based on a real stats. More like a directive fun thing to have. ''Just 90 overall''? Is that really a bad overall to have? Could you enlighten me which top team did Joukki play before nhl 15 and how would you rate him and why? Also you could tell me something about vatalisti since you seem to know him.

Thanks already! ps. Its game day!