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  4. How many ECL divisions should there be?

    in SportsGamer Feedback & Questions

    Posted · Edited by Jesus

    1 hour ago, gzell60 said:

    Why is that a problem? If your statement is true (I'm not so sure about that), the top lite teams and the top pro level teams would end up in the same division for the next tournament.

    Sounds pretty good to me.

    As one of the original Divisions creators, assuming the main goal is to shrink Lite in size, I have a different suggestion: Increase ECL Pro to 48 teams and keep the existing structure.

    I'm sure many lite teams could have battled in pro in the last ECL. No matter how many divisions you have all divisions will still be unbalanced. So what is the point? Shorter playoffs ... really?

    Your suggestion is really good btw and something that should be implemented for sure.

    No one cares about the Pro division or Lite division. The only reason why we have a division-based system is that Elite teams wanna play against other Elite teams. Which is fair ... but it's foolish to punish the rest of the community even further by adding yet another division. Pro & Lite is already completely uninteresting!

  5. How many ECL divisions should there be?

    in SportsGamer Feedback & Questions

    Posted · Edited by Jesus

    28 minutes ago, Maggre said:

    I don't see the problem, why is it required to reach the top division in one NHL game if you start out in the lowest division?

    If you play the game for fun, then you play with your friends no matter which division you're in.

    If you play the game to reach the top, either fight for a spot in a team already at the top or get into a lower division team and prove that you are worth it.

    If you want to see YOUR team reach the top, start from the lowest division and build the best team you can of players that will accept to play in lower divisions. This is a challenge as it should be, nothing worth having comes easy.

    Edit: Since I'm ECL Staff, I'd like to point out that this is my personal opinion.

    I think it's good for the talent pool that you don't have to many divisions. If you have 4 divisions or more it takes too much time for these players to find their way to the top.

    The problem is that it's basically no difference between top lite and top pro teams. There is no real sense of pregression going through the divisions, it's just a grind. The same structure will appear with more divisions. Unnecessarily complicated and time consuming imo.

  9. Is it time?

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    Posted · Edited by Jesus

    Of course it is time. The tech has been there for years. But it is a well known fact that Sony don't want to open up for cross play

    But there might be a backlash for Sony if they continue to have this conservative view. They have opened up when it comes to Fortnite and Apex I believe (so yes they are a bit afraid after all). However NHL will be one of the last games to implement cross play, since you know ... Rammer and all that.  Best way to fasten up this option for NHL is probably for the community to go over to Xbox for the next game.

     

     

  17. Thread about what happens after ECL 8

    in European Championship League - PS5 & Xbox Series X|S(6v6)

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    21 hours ago, Egyptologen said:

    Yeah but having a Swedish league does not mean the other nationalities can’t have their leagues. You already have a german league and a russian league, I think? Im sure Finland can come up with a league too. That leaves Connor and Billy, but Im sure they could play in one of the national leagues :) Or some other type of league like an international like suggested in this thread.

    My point is that there is no restriction to how many tournaments one can participate in...but the question should rather be how many tournaments are mandatory to play in order to keep your ECL-spot?

    Yes, I agree. A swedish league would be refreshing. Finland already have ECL lol. I don't think the nationals should end the season tho.

     

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  18. Thread about what happens after ECL 8

    in European Championship League - PS5 & Xbox Series X|S(6v6)

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    20 hours ago, Kenu said:

     

     

    Ah, yes, wise words. I'll open up my thought process a little to hopefully explain things a bit better (while still vague enough to frustrate some of you 😅)

    • When I say needs a breather and talk about future plans in this case, I'm speaking short term. What in my opinion is the right decision right now. Some criteria that I have to take into account:
      • We've been playing ECL pretty much 5 months straight. I completely agree with what you say about how the pauses should be. The pause before season 8 was much shorter than ideal due to the big steps we were able to take with partnerships and to be able to make the live final.
      • While ECL is our baby and will continue to be the most important of our franchises (along with the NACL that we just announced), we also want to consider other avenues that make the NHLGamer experience fresh and speak to an audience that we're not fully talking to yet.
      • We have to consider our staff's availability and energy levels when making decisions.
        • We have a lot of people listed as ECL staff, but in reality there are a few diamonds that take care of most of the work while a lot of the people are contributing a little or none (which is totally fine as long as the communication is solid).
        • It's hard to explain how much work there really is to make this thing work as well as it is (even with all of its flaws). And in the end I'm the only one working on this full time (currently for free) and it often comes down to me if nobody else is available. 14h+ days are no stranger to me.
          • Not to make things about me, but this then comes down to having to measure my own energy levels. It's no use to the community if I drive myself into a hole and don't have the energy to continue.
            • An example of my esports related projects since the release of NHL 19:
              • IS Cup 3: NHL 19 6vs6 eSM 2018 - Online qualifiers + Live finals in Helsinki 
              • IS Cup 3: FIFA 19 1vs1 eSM 2018 - Online qualifiers + Live finals in Seinäjoki 
              • IS Cup 3: NHL 19 1vs1 eSM 2018 - Online qualifiers + Local qualifiers in Helsinki + Live finals in Helsinki 
              • ECL 7
              • FIFA 19 Finnish Championship -tournament for Palloliitto - Online qualifiers + Head Admin for finals in Helsinki
              • FIFA 19 Nordics Invitational -tournament for Palloliitto - Head Admin for finals in Helsinki
              • ECL 8 - Online + Live finals in Tampere 1st of March 2019
              • NACL
              • GCL 3, RCL 3 & RCL 4 (these guys do a very solid job and I don't have to help them too much outside of start of season and playoffs)
              • All of these projects and others not mentioned demand planning, meetings and and preparing before the actual seasons take place. On top of these, time is needed to plan ahead and look at the big picture and develop future plans and partnerships. Not all of our concepts make it to the public eye.
      • We need to think about what the high-end players want vs what the lower end players want vs what the audience wants vs what the partners want vs what a sponsor might want and make a decision that makes the most sense from all points of view. Sometimes one of these groups might get a bigger weight than at others, but it's important to understand that if we want to grow and succeed, we need to take all of these into account and sometimes that might feel like an odd decision if you're only considering your own position as a team or player.
         
    • What is the right decision today might not be the right one tomorrow, and vice versa. So just because we have done something in one way in the past doesn't mean we can't add or remove from the experience in the future.
       
    • One thing that some people might find annoying is the lack of information about things well ahead of time. Some thoughts on that:
      • Yes, first off, we want to communicate things as early as possible and are aware that we can do a better job. However, here's some thoughts on why we do things the way we do:
        • I don't like to promise things that I can't keep. Plans change and we need to adapt quickly. But I'd rather have that be internal than announcing something on a time-period that was previously announced as a safe time to take a vacation etc. 
        • In some cases, like for example ahead of ECL 8, some of the info wasn't available and wasn't allowed to be released until it would be communicated by us and our partners.
          • Point being: I'd rather communicate something with the correct information from the start than to for example have people expect a higher prize pool and then have to go back on that. Let's say, hypothetically, that I said previously that the ECL 8 prize pool will probably be 10k and then it turned out to be 5k or 7,5k. It would still have been a great thing and an improvement to the past, but it would have been a disappointment as we set the expectations higher ourselves.
             
    • Just because we don't comment on something or say something, doesn't mean we're not thinking it or not doing it. 😊

     

    I hope that explains a bit better what our/my process of thinking is. We love your feedback and ideas, so keep them coming.

     

    I appreciate the transparency

    When it comes to the management of the site it does sound like it's time to delegate responsbility. It is of course unsustainable that a few should work in all fields of development and do most of the workload. If you can find specific responsibilities for your ECL staff then hopefully you can save a lot of time. Have a seperate team that runs the ECL tournaments for example. Have one or two that takes care of rulings etc. It does sound like you have to step back from certain things for your own well being. Focus on what's most important.

    I don't think lack of information is a problem. Generally I would say the staff is really good at answering question and reaching out to the community in time.  It would of course help if people knew the framework for how the season is planned out. But in general I don't think most people have a problem with taking on new challanges with relatively short notice. The problem seem to be the lack of challanges.

    It's good that we agree on the ECL timeline. I also agree that it was right decision to make with the live final in Tempere in mind.

    5 months of ECL is nothing for the community.The community wants 8 months of ECL. I do understand that it's a lot for the staff tho.

    Anyways. Thank you Kenu. Clearly you have made the right decisions so far.

     

     

     

     

     

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  19. Thread about what happens after ECL 8

    in European Championship League - PS5 & Xbox Series X|S(6v6)

    Posted · Edited by Jesus

    19 minutes ago, PSchibra said:

    An English football's ''FA cup'' type tournament could be interesting. Put all participating teams in a home-away 2-game series knockout bracket and last one standing wins. Potential for some crazy upsets and storylines. 

    Like that idea. Could also go with groups of 16 if we want to extend the fun a little bit. One elite team in each group, two pro teams and fill the rest with lite and new teams. Will probably be 16 groups with around six teams in every group. Top two in every group goes to the round of 32.

    Might not be that much fun for Elite teams in the begining lol. But oh well. It's a good expierence for most at least.

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  20. Thread about what happens after ECL 8

    in European Championship League - PS5 & Xbox Series X|S(6v6)

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Egyptologen said:

    I think 2 ECL tournaments is a fair amount. It doesnt prohibit us from creating tournaments outside the ECL-system. Perhaps we can arrange a swedish championship league for the spring? :)

    The swedish community needs more national 6v6 tournaments for sure. There is huge potential here and I do believe NHLGAMER can find good partners to team up with. But the answer to the void for our community as a whole during spring cannot be a swedish tournament for a select few.

    49 minutes ago, Kenu said:

    While the Summer Cup isn't our next thing, please feel free to discuss how you would like to see that develop.


    Also, for those of you who didn't read my reply in the NACL news comments - this is what sparked the discussion:

     

    Thanks for opening this discussion @Jesus.

    No thank your for reaching out to the community about the future.

    This topic is definitely something that people are talking a lot about. I'm sure you have something brilliant coming up and I do believe that you should go with your own vision and not listen too much on the community. However, I do not agree with your argument about ECL needing a breathing period to feel fresh from a audience perspective. Summer is the breather period, rest of the year should try to be full on hectic competetive gameplay. The peak of ECL should be late spring if posible. The interest in hockey is at it's peak and players are at their peak at this time. f you only want two sessions of ECL every year then it's much better to have a longer winter brake and fill those months with other tournament formats. Important to end the season with a bang IMO.

     

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  21. Thread about what happens after ECL 8

    in European Championship League - PS5 & Xbox Series X|S(6v6)

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    Creating a thread where people can share ideas for what NHLgamer should do in the coming months after ECL 8. Share ideas and visions. I also wanna raise the question about the fact that ECL currently runs two major tournaments every year. What do you think about that?

    I do believe that two major ECL tournaments is to few, especially since we have 3 divisions. A new lite team that is formed today will at best be able to play in the elite division in the first season of NHL 2021. With the 3 division system I do believe that more ECL:s is crucial for the european scene. Then again, I'm not the one that has the organize all this so it's easy to complain.

    Anyways. Share your opinions

     

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