SadaPoika

Hey everyone, In this post, I’ll break down the current imbalances in the ECL system. Before I get into specifics, credit where it’s due: Sportsgamer and Kenu have done a ton great of great work for ECL, and I´ve always been grateful for it. But right now, the system feels unsustainable, and if nothing changes, I don’t think it will last much longer. Last weekend, Sportsgamer published the current prize pools. My conclusion is simple: this isn’t acceptable relative to what we pay for the licences. Especially for Elite. The prize pools we had in Elite last season before the reduction were just about acceptable. Again, for the money we spend. This leads to the main flaw in the current system: the total amount players pay is too high compared to the total prize pools. A big reason is that the lower divisions have prize pools that are too large relative to Elite. And before someone says, “we don’t want to pay Elite players prizes”. Yeah, I get that. But the mistake happened back when the licence fees were introduced through every division. To a working system back then where players wanted to play as high as possible. Elite and Pro at that time were the toughest they have been. I believe introducing the licence fees like that worked for a while before people saw that the lower you play the easier it is to get prize money. Or not to lose money, however you want to see it. I will now explain what I mean and I’ll use the super early bird prizes to be as fair as possible to Sportsgamer here. Examples if per team 6 players pay the team licence and everyone pays 15e for their own licence per season: 3rd best team in Europe You pay 98.33€ per season. You get back 97.69€. So you are losing money while being one of the best teams in Europe. 19th best team in Europe (Pro 3rd) You pay 65€ per season. You get back 65.69€. 51st best team in Europe (Lite 3rd) You pay 48.33€ per season. You get back 51.88€. 91st best team in Europe (Core 3rd) You pay 31.67€ per season. You get back 36.16€ If you’re the 91st team you get more back than the 3rd best team… And due to this imbalance, teams want to play lower than their level is. The lower you play, the less risky it is to lose money. And even make some money if you win the league you´re in. We have seen the extreme in teams with mostly elite players(from 1-2 seasons prior) go play lite due to this... Sportsgamer can force them to “play” qualifiers, but they can´t force them to actually play. We saw this from one team as they were skating to the boards or even just being AFK for like half of the game... There’s a lot of comparisons you could do to show the imbalances. I´ll throw one more in. You get to the playoffs in Elite and lose in a tight game seven series to a team that goes on to be the champion. Congrats, you played a great season, and your team was one of the best in EU. You still lost 59.25€ in total this season. And must pay the 98.33€ again for the upcoming season to maybe play as good. You have a team of players that don´t have or want to put extra money into ECL. So you go play in Lite due to it being less risky to lose your money. Even though you could compete in pro if everything clicks. Your team wins lite. You get 40.60€ to celebrate for being the 49th best team in EU. So even though your team was 44 spots lower that the 5th best team in the same league that season. Each player in your team made 100€ more than them. This isn´t how a competitive league works, as you should always want to play as high as possible, and be motivated to do so. How to fix it then? I have one suggestion, which would be at least better than how things are now. Casual and Competitive leagues. Casual league Only player licence (same as now) First team get back 150€(licence amount for 1 season per player x6) Competitive league Elite 16 Teams Pro 16 Teams Lite Rest divided into groups of teams so that everyone gets 30 games. For example 200€ licence per team + player licence. with 64 teams the prize pool would be 9536€ after taxes. With most of it going to the top division, as it should be in a competitive division. Divided for example(this is just a example, dont get too tied to it): Lite 1st 350€ Pro 2nd 350€ Pro 1st 550€ Elite 4.-8. 350€ Elite 3.-4. 550€ Elite 2nd 750€ Elite 1st 5000€ Elite would every season have open qualifiers for 1 spot, so everyone would have a fair chance to play in their own level. I will not spell the whole system here but this gives a good picture of it. If Sportsgamer is open to it, I’m happy to walk through the full concept in more detail and help refine it.

@aaksu17 Out back to robe @xHatsi Back to starting roster @xSnaipperi Back from robe as backup

Just ban everything. So many OP traits this year that make the game too unrealistic. I can also kinda agree with allowing elite edges and nothing else.

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Heimo (elite) New version is coming out in a week and we are in need of players 🙂 Looking for LW, C, RW, LD, RD and G. So if you are a proven impactful Elite player or think you have the potential to be one, drop me a message in here, psn SadaPoika or discord sadapoika.

10 years late mate

The thing i enjoy the most when i´ve played without x-factors is the fact that there is no tuculence or stick em up.. Especially golden stick em up feels too automatic at times and the skill in using it isn´t there.. Yes there are bullshit pokes with it also, but the best way to use the golden stick is to just press r1 and that feels too automatic. Without abilities i´ve seen some elite defenders really struggle now, because just auto aiming with the r1 isn´t there anymore. You actually have to defend by having a good body position or having a really good active stick. Two things that require skill and iq. I actually dont´t hate this as it doesn´t make defending too automatic and still rewards offensive plays more than now. We haven´t had yet a problem scoring without abilities and adding the silvers wouldn´t change much. We have been scoring one timers too from further out with minimum slap shot stats😮 Also a thing mentioned here before. Spamming shots close to the net when the goalie is well positioned doesn´t work anymore and you actually have to find a better angle rather than just shooting it close to the net without even thinking anything else. Conclusion: I would enjoy the game most without abilities or not having defensive boosts. Atleast not having golden stick em up or/and truculence would make my experience better🙂

Heimo In: @KingOfApes_ ⬅️ NOVA @Mozjayh ⬅️ EXEN Welcome to Heimo! Westend might feel a little different from Kivistö😄 Out from starting roster: @Sakkem @xHatsi

As this is a list from current season i will not take old merits into account. Don´t get me wrong, Exen forwards are one of the top players in the game but they heavily underperformed this season. Maybe just saving for the playoffs😉 Also take note that this list is heavily based on how these players played vs us. LW: Vattuyy, xAaro89x, ojala16, Keuschemisch, x-_-BoBi-_-x C : Beniittto, launonenxx, Harlowi, Patzlaf, Mozja RW: NikkeDangles, itspardytime, Eki, antoniomannen, profiilipakki LD: Tomboo-_-, karkass, xDoumi, Toneee9, Nuarijamal RD: Teemuyy, wengerii, Flyerkungen, Misee96, Easychasniper2 G: FinSere, UhNikke, Hansulinho, Benuh, Stammer70

Heimo In: @xHatsi ⬅️ Mustaa Kultaa @xSnaipperi ⬅️ Bjorkloven Esport Welcome to our new young guns💥 Out: @TeikDaun ➡️ Mythix @N44TTI_16 ➡️ DILAC @Makeaxl ➡️ Final(?) Retirement😢 @Akunkku➡️ Havu tryouts🤔 Thanks to our little bit older guns, and good luck to everyone in the future🖤💛

I have to ask why it will never happen? Every X-Factor is kinda silly in their own way, some being more stupid than others obviously. Anyway, now when EA "removed" Elite Edges, this should be the perfect spot to just ban them all from competitive gameplay, and end this f*cking stupid shitshow circle happening again year after year. No? If I would need to choose, I would go with "ban all" or "don't ban nothing" at this point. I really like this take and i think it would be the best way to go forward. But the only thing i know for sure is that there can be no big tipper in competitive leagues.

Heimo (elite) We are looking for one backup. Preferably a LD, but we are open to other positions aswell. Send me message here or on psn.

Better late than never 🙂

Hello my dearest friends, it's time to make this list active again ♥️ Lw: Vattuyy, Vilupoika, puantso, vire, jerska 😄This means C but can't edit on phone :D: Bena, Patzlaf, Mozja, Ikis, krike pelaako senaa Rw: NikkeDangles, Lada, Eki, Ante, Foppa? are you a forward?! Ld: Doumi, Tombo, Frans, Sebbe, Pats Rd: Veeti, Ape, Teemu, Jamal, Nikhaa G: Cappe, UhNikke, Faze, Kazzu, Sere No own players ofc😊

Also make it so players can have max 80 faceoffs. Would be nice to use the same builds as wingers as a center😶

I just posted this on Elite/Pro poll: IMO we have 3 options going forward Option 1: Don´t ban anything Option 2: Ban truculence, Unstoppable Force and Big Tipper (the 2 most op and UF for balance) Option 3: Only Elite Edges (If you ban Close Quarters, you need to ban goalie abilities too. This leads to having to ban more stuff for skaters, so you need to ban everything for this to work. Elite Edges is the only ability atm that needs to be on to keep the game smooth, like magnetic and EE last year. Only problem that comes from this is that all builds that don´t have golden EE becomes pretty much useless)

IMO we have 3 options going forward Option 1: Don´t ban anything Option 2: Ban truculence, Unstoppable Force and Big Tipper (the 2 most op and UF for balance) Option 3: Only Elite Edges (If you ban Close Quarters, you need to ban goalie abilities too. This leads to having to ban more stuff for skaters, so you need to ban everything for this to work. Elite Edges is the only ability atm that needs to be on to keep the game smooth, like magnetic and EE last year. Only problem that comes from this is that all builds that don´t have golden EE becomes pretty much useless)

Small 4.5 year break, but now we are back🙂

JANO (Elite) We are looking for one forward and one defender for upcoming tournaments. We expect you to be an elite level player, or a potential player who thinks he can reach that level when the next season starts. So Elite/Top pro pretty much. Also you should be able to play at least 3-4 times a week. If you think you are the right player for us contact @Eeemill_ or me on here/psn

Free for upcoming tournaments My best positions are RW/C, but every position and both handedness work.

Free C/Rw/Lw. Also Ld/Rd works, but it might take more than 3 weeks to get used to playing D again. Handedness doesn´t matter. Elite only

Free C/RW, also LW works but i haven't played it for a couple NHLs. Looking for a long-term team. Would be nice that there would be a chance to evolve my own and the teams game. Message me here or on PSN.