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Ban them all or only allow second wind

After review, im down to join the ''ban them all'' side However, if we decide to ban them all, IN MY OPINION we need to ban PWF, DFD and ENF etc. Because as a defender who use the PMD, you need to counter the PWF with stick em up (you can ofc counter with better positioning too, but it's a lot harder overall as a PMD), the physical plays are already in favour of the PWF, and as a player i shouldn't be forced to use the DFD just to stand a chance in my own zone. So in my opinion we should keep the current bans where forwards can't use PMD on the wings, but we should add PWF and ENF to that list, and DFD ENF for the defenders. If you don't agree, i would like to hear your opinions regarding this 🙏

You make an excellent point here, but the problem is that they should have banned them all from the beginning, not in the middle of the release or during tournaments. I do agree that at some point we have to make a decision, but the best timing would be before the new release so we already know there won’t be abilities when the game launches and that it stays that way. I believe EA will not get rid of the abilities anytime soon (ever), as they make money from them. I’d also like to comment on the statement that “bans would not be based on the opinion of the loudest people in the community.” It’s not about who happens to speak up; it’s important that everyone who has an opinion feels encouraged to share it so all viewpoints can be heard. That was the whole reason I started this conversation. SportsGamer should make some decisions or conduct a poll as soon as possible so people have time to adjust.

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I do want to point out that banning all the traits will probably lead to more turtle defence and more emphasis on counters and rushes. Less shooting traits -> harder to be a threat from outside the middle in the o-zone -> just plug the middle with five guys if you’re the defending team. Also, no second wind -> less energy for everyone -> more reloading energy before breaking out and also more trapping -> more slow breakouts, less fast breakouts and less rushes in general -> probably a less entertaining game for the players and the viewers

To continue the conversation from the old thread... Now that the season is almost over for everyone, I would like to start a discussion about the upcoming tournaments and the ability bans. After playing the game more, I have to admit that I’ve started to doubt the “ban them all” approach. Why do I think we need abilities? I feel that the whole game has developed around the abilities, and I have a feeling that it will turn into a lot of turtle defense vs. turtle defense if all the abilities are banned. It could also force players to use builds that they normally wouldn't want to use. I propose banning all the Elite abilities. The currently allowed gold and blue abilities are pretty well-balanced. You could also keep the currently allowed gold abilities only if the community prefers that. Another interesting option would be allowing only one (gold or blue) ability per player. Please share your opinions. Does anyone else have doubts about the “ban them all” approach like I do?

I think banning everything will make the gameplay even worse. Defending will become even more turtle than it is, just because its almost impossible to score farther than 2 meters away from the net without shooting abilities. Attacking will become even more forcing than its ever been and i think thats not what we want. Only available skater abilities that i dont understand is "Tape to tape" and "Send it" why we have autosaucers and acceleration boosts in competitive gaming? I dont comment about goalie abilities, just because i want to avoid that brainless discussion. Just sharing my own thoughts👆

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I agree with all of that 100%. We have also tried games without abilities and imo it makes gameplay much more "force hockey/crash the net" than it is now already. As a dman interceptions and sticklifts are enough bad already so personally i dont need more that kind of gameplay... Without abilities there is not any kind of onetimer threats or far distance shot threats and that allows people to play that "turtle defence". Lets keep same rules/bans like in this last ECL or then keep same bans but only allow gold and/or blue versions of abilities (=ban elite versions). And if we are going to ban elite abilities then ban those elite abilities from goalies also. I hope like there will come some kind of public voting poll from sportsgamer side so everyone is having a chance to affect desicion. Its better that way than small group is making that kind of desicion. Let community decide.

Ban all the elite ones, and keep the bans as they are (maybe allow Elite Edges, but thats just my opinion)

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