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sundisx replied to Robsom's topic in EASHL Teams
BRYNÄS IF ESPORT We're looking for a starting Goalie for the upcoming season! Also looking for a starting/backup Right Winger Feel free to contact me here or on discord: 53xo if you're interested.- 4908 replies
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Welcome to the Sportsgamer circus #PayThePlayers
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It's getting to be high time to step up. It's unbelievable that we just keep our mouths shut. WAKE UP saatana
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I mean how hard can it be to say where the money is? This silence will only make them lose more teams than they already have. but maybe they dont care anymore.
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sonny replied to Robsom's topic in EASHL Teams
Refuse Too Lose ( Pro qualifyers ) Lite Looking for Starter LD And RD also Starter G You need experience from atleast Core but higher leauge is big pluss. If u can pass fast and acurate, know your defensive position, Good at making decisions in offensive and defensive zone, Know how to play the trap Then you are the one we looking for TRYOUT everyday, If this fits you contact me on PSN sonnysprofil or discord @Sonnysprofil CYA on the Ice- 4908 replies
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good song go listen to it. if gamer doenst come out with real facts and info i will not agree to pay for the missing money, because it will go lost again eventually, i have had known about gamers problems for some time so im not suprised, only suprise to me is why they havent tried to help themself with money from previous seasons when they have known about problems, to my 1+1 counting i can understand they should have some money left on pocket most probable thing is what happend is that owners too money hungry but cant really know before facts
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We will thinking to made new leagues for players. Maybe low fees or free to play, just because guys want to PLAY 6s. Hit some reaction if you're interest about new tournaments, for everyone and different levels of players. Good night gamer. It was nice ride, not crying about fees for hobbies but if we have some prizepools, you NEED TO PAY funds back for winners. Sadly Kenu sold that firm for untrusted brothers, it's not community responsibly to fix that financial problem year to year. Everything went to down when NHLGamer turned into SG.
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Correct. If other mods decide to join the discussion, they should expect a response, especially if they do it with a bit of sarcasm, irony, or attitude. Otherwise you’re absolutely right. This is where we’re at, and meanwhile another site with a new tournament format is already being built. That’s the bottom line. The money is gone, but where did it go?
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Its really interesting to read these comments about the transparency , who to blaim to , who is what and who is not , facts etc etc. I think everyone is totally in agreement that winnings should be paid fully , right? So lets leave that topic aside. What comes to the current ownership , correct me if im wrong but the brothers who are now in charge have shady past with other companies and finnish law. First thing comes to my mind is background check... Should that been done and have it been done before selling the majority of shares? 2nd thing is mostly my oppinion. Kenu has been in a volunteer "contract" and hasnt recieve any payments. Imo when kenu ran the whole thing when NHLgamer was the name , everything went smoothly , or is it my old memory that fails ? I want to thank kenu deeply for those times and i miss that era. Personal memories are warm and sterng from there with all the commentary "jobs" with kenu and arttu and also other great people that i had the pleasure to work. 3rd thing that weighs on my head is financial things. So if its the case that community calculation are in fact correct , it raises so many questions that should be anwered. Where all the money went that was left after the costs... Because this community isnt stupid. The only way to solve that question is to give people the answer that they so urgently need. Where is our money going that we have paid to sportsgamer and their owners. The concerns of the community that falls around the current ownerships agenda and money usage is totally legit. And that needs to be answered. The reason for those concerns comes the history of the current ownerships , and that history makes these demands fair and reasonable imo. And my last opinion is going to be this. As hard it can be , lets try to keep conversation respectful , even it feels like really hard thing to do with all these things still not to be answered.
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fisu123 replied to Robsom's topic in EASHL Teams
HC Vilttimiehet (Lite) Haetaan backup pelaajaa hyökkäykseen ja puolustukseen, tai mahdollisesti yhtä allround backuppia. Pelataan n. 5x/vko klo 20-22(24) välillä. Peliaikaa backupeille varmasti luvassa. Yhteydenotot dc: The_Finisher90- 4908 replies
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This post was made to get to the bottom of why the prize pool money hasn’t been paid to the players, as promised, within 90 days of the season ending. It’s not about blaming anyone especially not the admins. Why would they know anything about the company’s financials or what’s happening behind closed doors? So for fk sake stop directing your frustration at them. The question was and is simple: Where is the prize pool money? Nothing else matters. If the money has been used or redirected, the players deserve a transparent explanation and proof to legitimize that decision. Not that the cost have gone up, that can’t be the explanation to this question.
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@SportsGamer you should be reading this instead of leaving it to your admins to fight a battle that isn’t theirs… We’re all waiting for a response
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The only way for SG to gain any trust nor respect our of this is to; 1) Arrange any unpaid prize money to be paid And the most important one; 2) Transparency, facts, everything about where the money went, where did it go wrong, what happened? What people want is not words, but "receipts", breakdowns of money gained, where it went and was used. If SG can't provide or doesn't want to provide these facts, then they are hiding the numbers for one or more reasons, which is a shameful look on the corp(?).
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It might actually be a good idea to use a program to get your grammar right. But if you want to use that as some sort of insult, that’s up to you. Maybe it’s even something you should consider yourself, to help correct the same kind of errors that happen when you play games. The hands, just like mine, aren’t quite what they used to be. If you want to go down that road and make this personal with small jabs, then fine. I can do the same and be completely transparent with you. You know what, maybe you should start using ChatGPT to think for you, because whatever that reply was supposed to be, it came out incredibly awkward. But credit where it’s due. It’s actually impressive to see you finally speak up. You’ve built quite the reputation for avoiding conflict and hiding behind your friends, so it’s refreshing to see you step out and actually respond instead of disappearing like usual. Now to the point. Nobody here ever expected you or the other volunteer admins to personally fix the finances or issue payments. The frustration isn’t aimed at the people who helped moderate tournaments or update brackets. It’s aimed at the person hiding behind the official SportsGamer account yesterday, who posted that confusing statement that somehow managed to make everything even less clear. You say you’re not part of the ownership, and that’s fair. But that’s exactly why your reply misses the point. You stepped into a discussion about accountability from the organization itself, not from unpaid helpers. When you admit you have zero insight while still trying to defend the situation, it comes across as defensive and misplaced. What people want isn’t another “I don’t know.” They want transparency from the people who took the money. The community has already done the math, and none of it adds up. There are debts, missing funds, and companies linked to the same structure that raise serious questions. Every vague or sarcastic answer just makes it worse. Nobody is asking you to solve this. But maybe stop treating legitimate criticism like it’s drama. Because while you might not have earned anything in ten years, a lot of players here have earned something worse, complete distrust.
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I'd say that you should be able to understand that respectfully was used in jest but chatgpt doesn't really pick up on sarcasm too well eh? Anyway, no I don't know the behind the scenes because I'm not an employee of the company. If I was then having that understanding would be anticipated, however on account of myself making a grand total of 0p over the decade I've been helping out here imma go ahead and say that it's not appropriate for me to have an intimate knowledge of those specifics. Bluntly, it's a valid complaint that people have, and as a tournament organiser (be that person, or company) the absolute zenith of any responsibility should be paying people out their winnings - you'd agree right? Obviously, the 'solution' is to pay out the people who are still not whole, and examine the financials so that something even vaguely similar never happens again - of course equally I don't need to tell you that the horses have kinda bolted before the gate here so any 'solution' is going to be more than a singular action. I'm not part of the ownership though, realistically they're the only ones that can do anything here, and they are the ones that should be responsible to fielding valid questions people have about them.
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Respectfully? Let’s not hide behind that word. You don’t need to reply “yass queen slay,” but you could start by acknowledging that players have been waiting years for prize money that was promised and advertised. That’s not drama or opinion, that’s a fact. When you say you don’t know the financial state of SportsGamer, that’s actually part of the problem. You’re an admin for a platform that has repeatedly taken money from its players through license fees, team fees, and sponsor-backed tournaments, yet you admit you don’t know where the money goes. That’s exactly why people are speaking up. This isn’t about guilt, it’s about accountability. The trust that once existed between the community and the platform has been completely broken, and every dismissive or sarcastic reply only widens that gap. You can laugh all you want, but the players, the ones who literally keep your platform alive, aren’t laughing. We’re the reason this community exists in the first place. So no, I don’t want a “yass queen.” I want transparency, responsibility, and for the people who built this scene to stop being treated like they’re disposable.
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Respectfully Svamp, what is it exactly that you want the "admins" to do here? Do you want us to reply to every post with a "yasss kween slayyy", or a "ur so right babe"? You can ascribe guilt to the admins all you want with as much fervour as you can muster, still doesn't make even a little bit of it true. Do I know the behind the scenes info about the financial state of affairs of SportsGamer? Lol, lmao even.
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Funny how the “esports dream” turned into a debt collection story. Let’s be honest. We’ve all been paying for seasons with a massive risk of never seeing that money again. The only difference now is that more people in the community finally realize it. Not a single cent should go to this website until they have paid their debts to the players. If that means the platform collapses, so be it. At least then it would be transparent. You can’t revive something that’s already dead. And yes, we know the admins are reading. The silence after their last statement says it all. More questions, zero answers. Silence doesn’t look professional. It looks guilty. #PayThePlayers
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Rather than wasting our time waiting for a answer every 10 years... taking the risk of giving again without being sure we'll ever see what we're owed. There are alternatives elsewhere. Where we're working on a possibility to save all the players who want to continue eSports, at least in 6s. I have lost all faith and confidence in SG. If players want something new, I suggest a discussion with all the team captains on Discord.
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Does anybody know how much money are missing and what has been prioritised when they paid the prizes? Elite teams?
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Matti won pro no money has seen, is any possibility money come? Laki juristi calling?