Peacerich_se

33 yr old swede looking for a socially active swedish or english speaking club on any level (doesnt necessarily have to participate in ECL but if it is I can play in all divisions/teams with the exception of maybe the absolute best teams in Elite) as long as its active ( 4+ evenings/week) and play 6vs6 and NOTHING else on EU-servers. I can play all positions but im probably best as a D or C. "Peacerich_se" on PSN.

Yes, but again, im just brainstorming like I said earlier in the thread, 10,14, 16, 22, 30 teams, whatever. Like we´ve agreed on earlier Elite is, based on skill to big already, it wouldnt be any different if more teams where added there would still be a top 8ish that would be in 6th gear going full throttle so it really doesnt matter if its 8 or 14 teams that are just about to get into 5th gear. Its about thinking outside the box and not get stuck in this pro thinking that we are some sort of pro organization that has got big sponsors, hundreds of players that has got this for a full time job and tens of thousands of "fans" following the games on twitch. My idea with teams from Lite and Pro being able to get a spot or two in the Elite playoffs would have been insane if it was a pro organization, but now it isnt, its a community and its not like i think that this system is killing the community in any way, shape or form I just cant understand why people seem to be so against giving all teams that participate, regardless of division, at least in theory a chance win and it probably wouldnt happen and it would just be on behaf of one single team from Elite if so. As far as pro goes they would already have proven that they could hang with a group higher because they just got promoted, as for Lite its a different story ofcourse but like I said before, let them play the winners from Pro and the 8th team in Elite for that spot or give them the 8th spot in the Pro playoffs, make it however you want all Im saying is that it should be possible.

Yes, they would in my example but in my other example they wouldnt necessarily have to just steal that spot right off, they can play team 7 for it and the team from Lite could play team 8 for their spot, Unfortunately there cannot be 16 playoff teams in Elite when it only consists of 16 teams and with the promote/regulation system Elite would have to expand in order for this to work, therefor in my other example if Elite was expanded to like 22 teams or something it could be done with 14 teams from Elite and 1 each from Pro and Lite. You could also have a system where top 7 in Elite goes to the playoffs while the winner from Pro faces off against the winner from Lite and the winner in that matchup plays number 8 in Elite for the final 8th spot. Like I wrote before this can be done in a million ways but what I´ve wanted all along here is just to bring up the fact that I think it should be possible for all teams to win the cup, IN THEORY, if its every gonna happen is not interesting.

Ok, interesting, look at your qoute below that you posted in my original "suggestion" less than two hours ago. If we would just go by that scenario (7th Elite spot to the winner of Pro and 8th spot to the winner of Lite) Synergy would have beaten Carlsberg with 10-1, 7-0 etc, I disagree.

Question is who is trolling here. Yes, Lite is mainly for beginners, when have I ever said anything else? What I´ve said is that there are some teams in Lite that are as good as the worst teams in Elite. And yes, the absolute best (again 8ish) top teams in this community probably wouldnt lose a playoff series against the best team in Lite but its not like that would win 10-0, 13-1, 8-0 and 10-1. I do not fear Lite teams more than Elite teams, jesus, try and read for a second will you? There are SOME teams in Pro AND Lite that i fear more than SOME of the teams in Elite. You dont have 16 elite teams in elite, no, which was exactly what i wrote before. Sure, its the spirit of the game, couldnt agree more, I love it! In my opinion the best team from Pro and the best team from Lite should be given the chance to participate in the Elite playoffs, how we should do this I dont know but I love to have a discussion about it and hear some ideas about how it in theory could play out. How people can be so against two wild card spots for Lite and Pro I dont understand, its not like im suggesting that the playoffs be played with the 6 best teams from elite, the 6 best teams from pro and the 4 best teams from lite I agree, they should have "more" access to the Elite Playoffs this is not a pro league, its a community where we like to compete. Again, im not suggestion a huge playoff with alot of teams from lite and pro being matched up with the elite playoff teams, just two spots, one for Pro and one for Lite. No offence to them and you are right, they wouldnt win the Elite playoffs and I´ve never claimed that they would but they wouldnt get battered with 4-0 and a goal difference of 44-3, they would maybe lose 4-0 but thats a different story. The top team from Pro would have to face lesser skilled players overall, yes, but they would still have to win the whole thing which would mean that on the way they would have to beat opponents that are as good and in some cases even better than some of the teams from Elite, so they would still deserve it.

Care to elaborate on that?

It depends, if we were professional as f*ck there are maybe 8ish teams in this community that I consider clearly being above the rest, so if Elite was only for the very best teams we could more or less cut it in half, not that I want that, suggest that or think that it would be a good idea, it would be a disaster for the community, much like how it would kill the Premier League if it was cut in half There are quit alot of teams both Pro and Lite that I fear more then some of the teams in Elite. Off topic, but still. Apperently Elite spots are up for sale now, it will be fun to see where we go from here if people start buying spots left right and center.

I agree, but neither is the current 16 and again, lets not focus on the exact numbers and "suggestions", 16,18,20,22,30,10, whatever, lets discuss the possibilities on how we handle the "problems" with missplaced teams. Im not a big fan of divisions myself but since the community overall seem to be pro divisions I´ll kind of have to take division into consideration

Its not a pro league, we do as we please with who deserve what and why, my point overall is that I dont see why the top team in Lite and Pro shoulnt be given a chance in the Elite Playoffs, how this should work we can all discuss but that is what I want and I cant possibly be the only one who think that its a good idea that before every season ALL teams can at least dream about it. Does it have to be the number 7 and 8 spot? Ofcourse not! Expand Elite to like 22 teams and give playoff spot 15 and 16 to Pro and Lite, have team 7-10 in Elite and the best team in Pro and Lite play short 6 team tournament where the top two teams get spot number 7 and 8. This can be done in a "million" ways.

Try and explain how my suggestion is a joke and why?

Yes, in a world where this works it would be, but something tells me that every single season for as long as NHLgamer has got this division system working like it works right now the best team (or maybe even a few teams) in Lite will be better then the worst teams in Elite. If the team winning the Lite Playoff then get a spot in the Elite Playoffs, I dont see what is wrong with that. They dont even have to get a spot, the can play Elite Team number 8 for the 8th spot. If this League or community was pro for real we wouldnt have to worry about it in the same way because teams wouldt come and go by the dozens every season and there wouldnt be issues with teams swapping more or less the entire roster.

No, it wouldnt be easy because you wouldnt be the only one trying to do that. What annoys me with the division system is that you have to play in Elite to be able to win the cup, I think that it would be a much better system if all teams, regardless of Division at least in theory had the chance to win and not limit that oppertunity to the teams in Elite.

Or we can just make it so that all teams, even the teams in Pro and Lite can win the playoffs in Elite. As it is right now the top 8 teams in Elite will play the Elite playoff, why not just cut it down to the top 6 teams and give spot number 7 to the best team in Pro and spot number 8 to the best team in Lite. *Edit - With automatic promotion for the team in Lite so that new teams, or the best team in Lite could just jump over Pro.

...and the division system is somewhat good but its not fifa with that huge player base, 10 divisions is 4-5 too many.

EA keep saying that they´d like the game to be more competitive so why should it be possible for the net to come off to begin with, at least in a 6 on 6 matchup. There are just so many things that would make the competitive scene alot more competitive with just some small adjustments to the game according to me. I´d like to see some easy "before lunch" adjustments, and this is for the EASHL 6 vs 6 scene, not the rest. Injuries, what is the point? Get rid of it. Fighting, same thing, pointless and more or less never happens anyway. Stamina, fuck this, full steam space machine it feels like its just there for no reason what so ever if anything make it possible to at least see how much gas you´ve got left.. ALL players should be able to perform all moves at all times, its just so annoying when you lose control of the puck for no fucking reason with like a defensive defenseman. Net off moorings, pointless and is just used for obvious reasons. Games are to long, sort this out by using real minutes instead of the "real time fast clock" and adjust the penalties accordingly, Id say 3 x 3min with like 30 sec penalties. That way, all games that doesnt go to OT would be pretty much on the spot 10 min and not like now, anywhere from like 20 min til the next game comes out. If draw make it a 3 min overtime, if draw after that a 5 round shootout. The overtime and shootout should be a setting that the home team can pick before going into the game (for playoffs etc). To challenge a club why do you have to go to totally different dressing room where nobody ever is? Wouldnt it be nice to just be able to do that from the original dressing room so that you can just challenge a team and not get matched up with the same random team over and over again, this would also be a great tool to see if the fucking search engine works to begin with and see who is playing. Reconnect to games if you are disconnected, duh, this is possible in "indie/arcade/low budget" games such as rocket league, but not in a AAA-franchise such as NHL. If the goalie gets disconnected he has got like 30 sec to reconnect, if he fails to do so another player has to take the goal, I want no bots, EVER, same thing goes for penalties etc, if there are alot of penalties just add the time to the skaters who are already in the box or replace them with the new ones but no bots, ever, if people rage quit you better finish your game with 3 or 4 players. It should be possible to change your lineup once you see who you are up against, pretty much like a dropin before this position thing got into the game like 2 years ago. I like the new drop in system for sure when most people just want to play F/C but its pointless for a serious team. Highligts/replay: These are way to short, the highligts for the goals are like 2-3 sec long, make them like 10 sec or something instead.

Nobody has written anything about the new EASHL-mode "threes" yet so I figured I would give my thoughts about it. I very much like the idea of it, casual and serious enough at the same time and a mode that I now realize that I´ve been missing. The arcade mode with a smaller rink and so on I really like, I dont really think its suits EASHL so fair enough the EASHL part is played on a bigger ice but why the hell is it straight off just a copy of 6s, in my opinion this ruins quiet alot. 1. Make the games shorter, way f*cking shorter. 1x7 min or something would be good (and the game clock would be real seconds and not 00-20) If draw after that 00:00-07:00 period include a penalty shootout. The reason for this is that you know pretty much on the spot how long a game will be, nowdays its impossible to know, a game can take anywhere from 20 to like 45 min which imo is way too much. I´d like to see this for 6s as well, a real time game clock with real seconds so that a game is 3 x 5 instead of 3 x 20 with some superseconds and the penalties to be like 40 real seconds or whatever it might be but as it is now its definatly not 2 min :-P 2. Im not a fan of bots so get rid of the powerplay just like in the arcade mode, penalty = penalty shot. If that for some reason doesnt go well with the community make it possible to play 3 on 1 powerplays and if there are new penalties just add the time to the first penalty. Obviously penalties need to be shorter (like 25 sec or something) if the games are shorter but overall I think its better with penalty shots, easier for EA to fix as well. So in short, 1x5,6,7min games, penalties=penalty shot and if draw a 3 vs 3 shootout.

I still haven´t quiet figured out why we need this change to begin with? Why not just keep it the way it is with most teams having something to play for the entire season and were every single team at least in theory has got the chance to win the cup? Having a league like this you will, when its free, have quiet alot of teams dropping out and not being serious enough, and this is how it is right now. I just dont get how we could ever get rid of this or make this problem less of a problem by making a division system. I´ve said this a few time but I´ll say it again, make us pay to be in the league if anything, this would probably solve 90% of the problems with teams leaving WO, not showing up etc. Just have a look at the current standing, 52 teams total and like 45 teams still have something to play for. With this division system I just cant see how it will be possible to be anywhere near those numbers. How motivated will like 10 out of the 16 teams in the pro division be to play when they cant win the whole thing, not even in theory? How motivated will the punching bags in elite and pro be to play the last 10 games when they cant stay up? How motivated will the middle teams in pro be to play when they not that its very unlikely that they will get promoted? How motivated will people be to play when the best thing that can happen is that they get promoted and has got a chance to win by starting from scratch in a higher division in several months? We are simply just cutting the community down quiet alot, most teams in the league will never have the chance to go up and take a swing at the absolute best out there. Most teams and players are more or less getting exluded. Would FIFA (they actual fifa) lose or benifit from going from a 32 team world cup to a world cup of only 8 teams? Sure, that tournament would be fucking amazing but it more or less excludes everyone from participating which more or less kills they whole thing. I doubt I dont speak for myself when I say that my personal intrest for this community more or less crashed overnight due to this. Its not like we have 1000s of teams were the difference is huge between the best and the worst. If we for some reason want this division top division system just make a short tournament in the end of every NHLXX with the top teams from that year (all ECL incl) and play last tournament for the best teams only or something if its so damn important to rank teams.

I wrote a reply regarding this in the old thred. In a world where we got paid doing this and it was a PRO community it would be one thing, for the super teams I guess it will not matter at all but for the teams that are top 25 and worse I just cant see what is good with this. If this was something that "we" had to do I would have wanted to see a playoff system were every team, regardless of division, could win the whole torunament. For example that the playoff winner in ECL Pro and ECL Amateur would clash in a best of 7 qualifier to get playoff spot number 8 in ECL Elite. Pretty sure we will see way more teams breaking up mid season and so on due to this, especially when its free to play, which is insane to begin with.

Solid division 1 player searching for a club that will for sure make it to the playoffs. I can play everything but goalie and I can speak swedish and english.

We will see alot (?) of teams quitting mid season because of this, that is not very good. I wrote this several months ago but its insane that this is a free service as well, if there was a fee of lets say 150€/team less teams would sign up and the teams that would sign up would be serious teams with the right and respectful attitude towards the other teams and the community in general. On top of that this is a kickass service and its a shame that the people running this are doing it for free, it kind of pisses me off to be honest.

I´d like to see a substantial fee for NHL17, like 100€/team because nhlgamer.com are worth it, this might help to get rid of teams not being serious as well.

I totally agree, the problem with "real divisions" were only the teams from division 1 have a chance to win is that we are playing a game. Lets say a top team splits up and 2-3 from each side start a new team. These teams needs to start from division 3 without being able to win the whole thing, I´m not a fan of that idea because clubs split up all the time and it will ALWAYS be like that until we have pro teams with players having full time salaries, as if that is ever going to happen. So as long as its casual fun all teams should be able to win regardless of division but of course if we decide to go for division the vast majority of the playoff-spots needs to be given to the teams in the highest division. Like I said if Division 1 is 20 teams maybe 13 out of 16 playoff-spots should be division 1 teams. When it comes to myself I wouldnt want to play ECL if my team didnt even in theory have a chance of winning.

Im pro divisions but i think the most important thing is that ALL teams, regardless of division should be able to win the Division 1 playoffs, every season. So for example if Division 1 is 20 teams maybe 12 should go straight to the playoffs. Team 13,14,15 and 16 play a best out of 7 against each other in a "small playoff" starting with the "semi finals" and the winning team takes playoff spot 13. Division 2, regular season with playoff and all but instead of playing the playoff final the two teams left standing should get playoff spot 14 and 15 and a promotion to Division 1 for NHL17, ECL Season 1. The final playoff spot should be given to a team from division 3 after they´ve had their playoffs or however it might work when all the teams have signed up.