Are You The Next Swedish Champion?

Will swedes and players from other nationalities be allowed in future eSM etc??

1 hour ago, iSvamp said:

Will swedes and players from other nationalities be allowed in future eSM etc??

Yes.

2 hours ago, Kenu said:

Yes.

Ty for the answer

fair enough 

Fun with a swedish tournament. Personally I think it would have been funnier if it was just for swedes, though...🙄

Buckets 🤩🤩🤩

Considering ECL is 90 % of finnish teams, one could question how it benefits the growth of the community to include finnish players in a swedish tournament? Maybe that is not NHLGamers goal? @Kenu

2 hours ago, Egyptologen said:

Considering ECL is 90 % of finnish teams, one could question how it benefits the growth of the community to include finnish players in a swedish tournament? Maybe that is not NHLGamers goal? @Kenu

16,67% of players could be Finnish and this ruins it for you? eSM 2019 will allow 33% of the team to be foreign. While we want to be equal where we can, we decided limiting the number to just one instead of two for the SCL in order to make sure the Swedish players have the best opportunity to show and grow. 

There is a bunch of pre-existing teams that have a mixed roster and by allowing a small quota of foreigners we want to prevent breaking up teams due to unnecessarily strict rules, as some teams would be restricted from playing in most leagues and tournaments in that case. 

Allowing a small quota of foreign players is nothing new in hockey and in the context of eHockey it will make SCL and eSM even more internationally interesting. Creating a tournament/league and throwing in a prize pool and event doesn't automatically generate success and future events - we need people to play, attend, view it online and find it interesting in order to guarantee success. 

I didn't like that we were unable to allow foreign players for eSM 2018 despite our best efforts and I got a bunch of angry and disappointed messages from some people that were unable to participate. Now we've been able to fix that with eSM 2019 and the SCL, but sadly it's impossible to please everyone. 

10 hours ago, Kenu said:

16,67% of players could be Finnish and this ruins it for you?

It does not. Neither did I say it would.

10 hours ago, Kenu said:

There is a bunch of pre-existing teams that have a mixed roster and by allowing a small quota of foreigners we want to prevent breaking up teams due to unnecessarily strict rules, as some teams would be restricted from playing in most leagues and tournaments in that case. 

I was specifically talking about Finnish players. I’m not asking why @MartindalexC can play with NOR. Finland is such a dominating factor in this community that the effect of allowing Finnish players is much bigger alone than allowing all other nationalities combined.

I don’t see how this makes a Swedish championship more interesting? On the contrary I think it hurts Swedish teams in the long run. Last minute transfers are rarely a good way to build success imo

 

12 minutes ago, Egyptologen said:

 

I don’t see how this makes a Swedish championship more interesting? On the contrary I think it hurts Swedish teams in the long run. Last minute transfers are rarely a good way to build success imo 

 

Isn't this a choice for every swedish team to make? And since finnish are dominating adding "better" players to a tournament makes it more interesting, no? 

3 minutes ago, Lauri said:

Isn't this a choice for every swedish team to make? And since finnish are dominating adding "better" players to a tournament makes it more interesting, no? 

Ofc the choice is up to each team. 

I believe there are more factors than skill alone to contribute to a tournament’s value. 

the afterparty will be better WITH Fins.
https://twitter.com/willekunq/status/1101595175074316288/video/1

Edited April 6, 2019 by iSvamp

12 tuntia sitten, Kenu kirjoitti:

I didn't like that we were unable to allow foreign players for eSM 2018 despite our best efforts and I got a bunch of angry and disappointed messages from some people that were unable to participate. Now we've been able to fix that with eSM 2019 and the SCL, but sadly it's impossible to please everyone. 

Dear kenu. If nhlgamer is organizatibg tournaments like SCL and eSM whole point should be focusing on finnish and swedish players. Bringing foreign players in tournament changes a lot. Its no more about swedish championship and finnish championship its more like ECL no. What comes to those angry messages you cant make everyone happy. But questions is like this, what can you do if people get sad if they are not allowed to join FINNISH tournament. Maybe it would be time to tell again how cruel world really is  

14 hours ago, Kenu said:

16,67% of players could be Finnish and this ruins it for you? eSM 2019 will allow 33% of the team to be foreign. While we want to be equal where we can, we decided limiting the number to just one instead of two for the SCL in order to make sure the Swedish players have the best opportunity to show and grow. 

There is a bunch of pre-existing teams that have a mixed roster and by allowing a small quota of foreigners we want to prevent breaking up teams due to unnecessarily strict rules, as some teams would be restricted from playing in most leagues and tournaments in that case. 

Allowing a small quota of foreign players is nothing new in hockey and in the context of eHockey it will make SCL and eSM even more internationally interesting. Creating a tournament/league and throwing in a prize pool and event doesn't automatically generate success and future events - we need people to play, attend, view it online and find it interesting in order to guarantee success. 

I didn't like that we were unable to allow foreign players for eSM 2018 despite our best efforts and I got a bunch of angry and disappointed messages from some people that were unable to participate. Now we've been able to fix that with eSM 2019 and the SCL, but sadly it's impossible to please everyone. 

I understand if you get to have a foreign player who have played for the team the season before in ecl. But now when you can choose who ever you want for me it gets more like summercup. When it is a swedish league i want to see a team  with swedish players not ”Style” plus the worlds best finish player who not gonna give a shit about the team in the ecl season. 

eSM for finns, SHL for swedes and ECL for everyone

I honestly don`t believe that Finns will travel play some NHL to Uppsala. Few pro players may go, but not many. This will effect in a way, that there probably is some teams in final tournament, that should not be there. And of course because of this, some Swedish teams don`t make it to the final event even they deserve to.

But maybe it`s still best this way... @Kenu gave some good points of why rules are as it is. 

Edited April 6, 2019 by ahonaattori

Well. Eki traveled to the states for some NHL?! Chiimeera did the same some years ago, "WAL" visited Russia in NHL 11 and played live EASHL.
A trip with the boat to Sweden is a pretty easy ride compared to that.
And - the Swedish teams will probably only take in the "top-players" that is available, and players that want to take that boat, be drunk, buy some snus, win some money, and the same ride back home again.

And there is actually a thing going on here in the Swedish community with teams dodging players from Finland. (even the top players) - So I think we all can calm down. Fin teams will not take in Swedish players for eSM, just because they don't need it with the big amount of players available on your side of this community.

Relax 🙂

1 tunti sitten, iSvamp kirjoitti:

Well. Eki traveled to the states for some NHL?! Chiimeera did the same some years ago, "WAL" visited Russia in NHL 11 and played live EASHL.
A trip with the boat to Sweden is a pretty easy ride compared to that.
And - the Swedish teams will probably only take in the "top-players" that is available, and players that want to take that boat, be drunk, buy some snus, win some money, and the same ride back home again.

And there is actually a thing going on here in the Swedish community with teams dodging players from Finland. (even the top players) - So I think we all can calm down. Fin teams will not take in Swedish players for eSM, just because they don't need it with the big amount of players available on your side of this community.

Relax 🙂

Yeah it is an easy trip... but doing it and spending something like 500€ to travel and hotel...+ good knows how many thousand to booz and Paf for tiiny tiny chance to win about 500€ does not sound so interesting to many. Specially when you don`t even go there with your own team, but some players you have played with for few weeks...

But we will see how it goes... Maybe i am wrong.

Money isn't that important tho. It can also just be a fun thing to do
People also spending 700 euros for a trip to Magaluf with plans of getting laid and drunk. and coming home empty-handed.

13 minuuttia sitten, iSvamp kirjoitti:

Money isn't that important tho. It can also just be a fun thing to do
People also spending 700 euros for a trip to Magaluf with plans of getting laid and drunk. and coming home empty-handed.

Hahhah... as an old Magaluf traveller :DDD i can say that money can be spent better...  And you may be right, maybe Uppsala is a good choice. It mus be better than Stockholm, where Finns don`t get in bars and nightclubs. 

Stockholm SUCKS!
The only people that like "stockholmare" are from Stockholm. So to say 9 000 000 vs 1 000 000.
@ahonaattori

Just 500 on a trip? 🤔 Sounds like a booring one..

Should be Swedish only 

does one who is 17 years old participate in scl?@Kenu

Just now, Tommywargas said:

does one who is 17 years old participate in scl?@Kenu

@Kenu

When SCL start   

 

8 hours ago, Tommywargas said:

does one who is 17 years old participate in scl?@Kenu

@Kenu

Yes, you may! I'm not sure how the laws are in Sweden, but I assume you're allowed to stay at a hotel with your parents permission (if you come to the final event). 😅

10 hours ago, Tommywargas said:

does one who is 17 years old participate in scl?@Kenu

@Kenu

Just tell me who he is so I don't buy him alcohol by "mistake". 🙃

49 minutes ago, iSvamp said:

Just tell me who he is so I don't buy him alcohol by "mistake". 🙃

Lolz, what about drugs?

10 hours ago, Tauri said:

Lolz, what about drugs?

😏

so am i to understand that ONLY swedish and finnish need this licence?

what about english players specifically ,do they need licence?

3 tuntia sitten, rurrez kirjoitti:

so am i to understand that ONLY swedish and finnish need this licence?

what about english players specifically ,do they need licence?

Hey!

Currently we are only involved with SESF in Sweden and SEUL in Finland and therefore licenses are only required for players of those nationalities to participate. We haven't communicated with other esports associations actively and are not aware if for example the British Esports Association offers competitive licenses for their players. 

In short: Mandatory for Swedes & Finns, voluntary for others.

Edited April 16, 2019 by jahajaha93