LA Ruling: Disciplinary statement

I think it would be right to say smth here. Feel it as a bit harsh decision. In terms of cultural differences i guess he just couldn't explain himself 100% and was misunderstood in some way. Know him as a very good person from all around and i believe years of playing in this community without any bad things happening can be brought in as a prove of that. No matter whom he played with. I guess @Sumskoy26 just gave back an answer in similar matter as he was called names. Not saying that wearing this t-shirt was a good idea, though...  

Of course as an organization, NHL Gamer must remain balanced and look at all matters from every perspective. So you can't leave it unnoticed. But maybe it could be less brutal, thats all. 

 

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1 hour ago, Baranizer said:

I think it would be right to say smth here. Feel it as a bit harsh decision. In terms of cultural differences i guess he just couldn't explain himself 100% and was misunderstood in some way. Know him as a very good person from all around and i believe years of playing in this community without any bad things happening can be brought in as a prove of that. No matter whom he played with. I guess @Sumskoy26 just gave back an answer in similar matter as he was called names. Not saying that wearing this t-shirt was a good idea, though...  

Of course as an organization, NHL Gamer must remain balanced and look at all matters from every perspective. So you can't leave it unnoticed. But maybe it could be less brutal, thats all. 

 

"Harsh"

Lol.

The dude decided wear a shirt that had a raised white fist with a lightning bolt tattoo with the confederate flag as the background in a picture he gave to the admins for broadcast. If anything, the fact that he only got banned for 1 tournament is pretty ridiculous, but with LA's previous... attempts at dealing with stuff like this im not exactly surprised . But hey, i guess using merch from a band that signs about white power, "bloody revolutions", monkeys and the "demise of the white race" while using shit like crossed grenades as album covers counts as light hearted bants in Russia.

I get your point. Not going to defend such music, not a big fan of that. Just take in consideration that in Russia nobody cares much about it really)) guys can listen to it and don’t understand a word from it))))) like heavy metal where they roar instead of singing. Maybe they just like guitar or drums. That’s what I am saying. Long ago half of the city where fkn skinheads just cause it was such time - now you can’t find any around. But everybody hate facism cause we all lost someone at wwII...  

My point is - you can love StoneIsland wear, but wearing it won’t make you a hooligan

Sorry, but this is Not too harsh, its not enough and the reaction to call Guys Clowns that called him out absolutely shows that He shows No regret and that He only called this Satire and a Joke and did "excuse" because He was scared to be banned longer. You don't wear such a Shirt as a Joke and there should be absolutely no place for racism in this Community. Just my two Cents.

Edited March 3, 2021 by Alex28

This is an absolute joke and a disgrace to every player on this platform and people (in the real world) who are affected by this kind of discrimination which is shown and presented on his shirt. Especially the way how he reacted on Twitter (calling People criticizing him for that Shirt as "AFA Clown" - which means Antifa Clowns) before the LA took the first steps have shown that he definitely did not wear this shirt as a joke. A 90 Day Ban is in my opinion way to less - especially in a time where no Tournaments (except from GCL and WECL that he doesnt compete in) are played People like him shouldn't be able to compete on this Level and should be banned for a lifetime. Even giving him the possibility to "apologize" and giving such a bad excuse in an "official statement" is too ridiculous. But if this is the ideology and idea of what NHLGamer wants to represent I am really questioning the People who decided in that Case. 

28 минут назад, Alex28 сказал:

Sorry, but this is Not too harsh, its not enough and the reaction to call Guys Clowns that called him out absolutely shows that He shows No regret and that He only called this Satire and a Joke and did "excuse" because He was scared to be banned longer. You don't wear such a Shirt as a Joke and there should be absolutely no place for racism in this Community. Just my two Cents.

You have your right to think like you want. I just tryed to deliver my point, that’s all. 
just don’t get how you link racism and tshirt )

playing with black bots is much more racist if you ask me)

and  coming from a repeat offender of the rules is also hilarious )

Edited March 3, 2021 by Baranizer

vor 10 Minuten schrieb Baranizer:

You have your right to think like you want. I just tryed to deliver my point, that’s all. 
just don’t get how you link racism and tshirt )

playing with black bots is much more racist if you ask me) 

If you really don't know how I get the Connection between that Shirt and Racism I can easily explain that to you:

 

- Confederate Flag in the Background:

It's a typical Sign for Right Wing People because the southern States of the US were against the Abolishment of Slavery.

 

- The Fist

It is the White Power Fist which should symbolize that "the white Race" is prior to other People

 

- The Lightning on the Fist

It is surely a coincidence that the SS used the same kind of Sign

 

- White Lives Matter

Is a typical Slang to counter the BLM Movement. The BLM Movement is about that POC have the same Values as every other Person and should not be discriminated because of their colour of their Skin, Sexuality or whatever. Nobody states that White Lives don't matter. But they were never discriminated because of their Colour of their Skin as POC.

 

- The Shirt of the Band

Look it up and take a look at all the racist Songs the Band of which the Shirt is from has released in the Past.

 

So you still don't understand why it's racist

Edited March 3, 2021 by Keuschemisch

1 минуту назад, Keuschemisch сказал:

If you really don't know how I get the Connection between that Shirt and Racism I can easily explain that to you:

 

- Confederate Flag in the Background:

It's a typical Sign for Right Wing People because the southern States of the US were against the Abolishment of Slavery.

 

- The Fist

It is the White Power Fist which should symbolize that "the white Race" is prior to other People

 

- The Lightning on the Fist

It is surely a coincidence that the SS used the same kind of Sign

 

- White Lives Matter

Is a typical Slang to counter the BLM Movement. The BLM Movement is about that POC have the same Values as every other Person and should not be discriminized because of their colour of their Skin, Sexuality or whatever. Nobody states that White Lives don't matter. But they were never discriminated because of their Colour of their Skin as POC.

 

- The Shirt of the Band

Look it up and take a look at all the racist Songs the Band of which the Shirt is from has released in the Past.

 

So you still don't understand why it's racist

I am not saying this is normal, racism is shit. And all described above is bad, But I wanna say that act as a racist and wear a tshirt is different things. 
btw You look like a very educated man on this matter) from where you know all that? 
just like how Russian guy get exercised on the matter from a German guy) 

So you don’t get me wrong, I am a grown 38-years man that was all over the world and respect all cultures. And I saw what racism is my friend. 

vor 5 Minuten schrieb Baranizer:

I am not saying this is normal, racism is shit. And all described above is bad, But I wanna say that act as a racist and wear a tshirt is different things. 
btw You look like a very educated man on this matter) from where you know all that? 
just like how Russian guy get exercised on the matter from a German guy) 

For me it is almost the same. If you are wearing a shirt like that you are spreading this kind of ideology and support their racist goals. You do not wear something like that by accident. Especially comparing that to a Clothing Label like Stone Island is ridiculous. Stone Island was worn by english Football Fans in the 70s and 80s because 1.) it was too expensive for most of the people 2.) you could immediately see other Hooligans who were keen on having Fights and stuff like that (without talking) because of the Patch on the arm. This is something different than wearing a Shirt with racial Slurs and Signs. That's all from me. Good Night.

Edited March 3, 2021 by Keuschemisch

5 минут назад, Keuschemisch сказал:

For me it is almost the same. If you are wearing a shirt like that you are spreading this kind of ideology and support their racist goals. You do not wear something like that by accident. Especially comparing that to a Clothing Label like Stone Island is ridiculous. Stone Island was worn by english Football Fans in the 70s and 80s because 1.) it was too expensive for most of the people 2.) you could immediately see other Hooligans who were keen on having Fights and stuff like that (without talking) because of the Patch on the arm. This is something different than wearing a Shirt with racial Slurs and Signs. That's all from me. Good Night.

Good night to you too. 
that’s it - for you its almost the same, for me it’s another thing and for some one else another. That’s why we all different. We have to respect each other. Let’s try to keep it that way. 

vor 1 Minute schrieb Baranizer:

Good night to you too. 
that’s it - for you its almost the same, for me it’s another thing and for some one else another. That’s why we all different. We have to respect each other. Let’s try to keep it that way. 

Yes, but Intolerance does not get my Tolerance and Respect.

This isn‘t enough. I vote for a Minimum of 1 year!!!

Edited March 3, 2021 by KlOis

14 минуты назад, KlOis сказал:

This isn‘t enough. I vote for a Minimum of 1 year!!!

When someone cheat on gamertags or call someone names on a stream - don’t forget to keep your strict linE 😉

p.s. nice choice for a first comment ever here, my German friend)

Edited March 3, 2021 by Baranizer

vor 29 Minuten schrieb Baranizer:

When someone cheat on gamertags or call someone names on a stream - don’t forget to keep your strict linE 😉

p.s. nice choice for a first comment ever here, my German friend)

Bad comparison and obviously not your friend 

1 час назад, KlOis сказал:

Bad comparison and obviously not your friend 

You switching accounts or what? ))

Another very soft punishment by NHLGamer regarding the same topic. But hey, at least it's more than what @Patzlaf got for using the n-word on stream, I guess. Which was no punishment. 😲

He should have been given a much more severe penalty. Fuck racism.

12 tuntia sitten, tbnantti kirjoitti:

Another very soft punishment by NHLGamer regarding the same topic. But hey, at least it's more than what @Patzlaf got for using the n-word on stream, I guess. Which was no punishment. 😲

Well This guy was an Russian and @Patzlafis well known Finnish elite player so ofcourse the punishment is different. Its almost like... racism??

7 часов назад, Ollizhki сказал:

He should have been given a much more severe penalty. Fuck racism.

Of course FUCK RACISM, but calling guy a racist for wearing smth is strange imo. In other case - when you straightly offence someone with racist comments then there is nothing to doubt about isn't it?

16 timmar sedan, tbnantti säger:

Another very soft punishment by NHLGamer regarding the same topic. But hey, at least it's more than what @Patzlaf got for using the n-word on stream, I guess. Which was no punishment. 😲