ECL 5 - Playoffs, Round 2 [Elite & Pro]

6 minuuttia sitten, ProMinx24 kirjoitti:

As far as I know, the “asking” bit is not really the truth. We always aim to finish within the allowed time frame. Never has anyone from SSG personally asked anyone for "more time". If they (LA) say you can still play 7 days after last game day or 0, we take it into consideration when scheduling last few weeks. Please refer to facts you only know about.

That wasn't personally forced for SSG. I'm not even interested who is dealing with WO's. In regular season, it seems like there is always gonna be some teams for it. I just used that "SSG" for example. Dunno really why. I know staff made mistake there as well. Don't be mad, everything is fine. I don't have anything against you or SSG. And if it helps, I'm sorry.

3 minuuttia sitten, Lauri kirjoitti:

That if something happens such as an accident or traumatic experience etc something you cant plan beforehand im quite sure LA will give more time

Yea, ofc the responsibility is for teams captains and players. So if you plan something not so necessary and you know it would be effect to your teams playoffs, but you still do it... Yeah, its not LA's problem. But usually its just bad luck that you cant get best possible lineup. Like other forcing things in real life. It's just would be so relaxing to know when series start: "ok, if something bad happens, we have a change to get more time 0,5 or 1 week bc rules already said that or something". I know staff use lots of time for keep building this shit together. But as we players do... We play fkin too much to give up easily.

It's not easiest thing to handle some many Divisions, players, teams... me... But at the end, I'm always thinking only how we can be more competitive. At ECL 5, right now, deadline is so tight, bc of Christmas and staff wanted to Seasons end before it, so I will stick with it. So there is not even room for accidents. But as I keep saying I'm talking about future.

2 minutes ago, Lauri said:

That if something happens such as an accident or traumatic experience etc something you cant plan beforehand im quite sure LA will give more time

Of course. As I said earlier, we try our hardest to help teams out. That said, it's within reason - we will do it, BUT we also need to keep things fair for everyone and avoid giving anyone preferential treatment. 

We will obviously support anyone If something unexpected happens and if because of it they won't have enough players to complete the games. It's understandable. The thing is - we don't feel that "not being able to ice the best lineup" falls into this category.  

1 hour ago, FlyerKungen said:

That wasn't personally forced for SSG. I'm not even interested who is dealing with WO's. In regular season, it seems like there is always gonna be some teams for it. I just used that "SSG" for example. Dunno really why. I know staff made mistake there as well. Don't be mad, everything is fine. I don't have anything against you or SSG. And if it helps, I'm sorry.

20 minuuttia sitten, OxtreeLAT kirjoitti:

Of course. As I said earlier, we try our hardest to help teams out. That said, it's within reason - we will do it, BUT we also need to keep things fair for everyone and avoid giving anyone preferential treatment. 

We will obviously support anyone If something unexpected happens and if because of it they won't have enough players to complete the games. It's understandable. The thing is - we don't feel that "not being able to ice the best lineup" falls into this category.  

It feels like staff is always hiding behind this "eight player" rule. You guys just use it like a shield to avoid things. It's also shame you don't care about competitive ECL as much as I hoped. "Keep things fair for everyone...", I'm not sure is it fair to force teams to play with bad or secondary lineup at most important games of season, if they play and practice 95% of time with one same lineup. For example, asking few more days in that situation, it's not ridiculous.

I took this to the table only bc I faced case like this first time in my Captain career. We we're really unlucky, no one's fault. It is Captains responsibility to take a good care if they hit on the ice with small roster and one lineup. And I'm not talking only about us, I don't wanna any team need to face cases like this in future. This kinda cases doesn't happen very often, but if that happens, there's need to be something to do. Just in case.

37 minutes ago, FlyerKungen said:

It feels like staff is always hiding behind this "eight player" rule. You guys just use it like a shield to avoid things. It's also shame you don't care about competitive ECL as much as I hoped. "Keep things fair for everyone...", I'm not sure is it fair to force teams to play with bad or secondary lineup at most important games of season, if they play and practice 95% of time with one same lineup. For example, asking few more days in that situation, it's not ridiculous.

I took this to the table only bc I faced case like this first time in my Captain career. We we're really unlucky, no one's fault. It is Captains responsibility to take a good care if they hit on the ice with small roster and one lineup. And I'm not talking only about us, I don't wanna any team need to face cases like this in future. This kinda cases doesn't happen very often, but if that happens, there's need to be something to do. Just in case.

 

The rule is there for a reason. If you have a really good player in your roster but he can only play once in a blue moon then is he really that 'good'? Since more often than not he can't play. 

Your job as a captain is to field the best possible lineup, not the best, as it has to be achievable. If you decide to take a chance and bring in 6 'main' players with 2 'fillers' then that's fine, but you absolutely cannot turn around to the admin team and ask for an extension because one guy was 'off'. The player minimum is there for a reason and if you end up being forced to play a playoff game because one of your main guys can't play, well then that's completely your fault for not acquiring good enough backup players. 

Ideally do WOs have a place in playoffs? No. Alas we don't live in a perfect idyllic world now do we? So such a thing will inevitably occur once in a while. 

 

Edit: Wait hold up, this doesn't feel right... I'm defending the admins? Who spiked my drink? 

Edited November 29, 2017 by MartindalexC

@FlyerKungen Imagine how long the playoffs would take or how hard it would be to get the games played if everyone thinks like you? 

There would be eight teams in elite playoffs asking for more time because someone from their best possible lineup are on vacation, hangover, tired or cat has eaten someones playstation. And if your biggest argument is "this isn't competitive" there aren't any reasons to change anything based on that. NHL teams are playing their games too, even if somebody is injured and they can't use their best lineup.

We need rules and scheludes, if it's too hard to follow them, don't participate.

I'm tired of this new generation where minority thinks that everything should go like they want and how it's best for them, even if it harms the majority.

Edited November 29, 2017 by Leksa94
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8 minuuttia sitten, MartindalexC kirjoitti:

 

The rule is there for a reason. If you have a really good player in your roster but he can only play once in a blue moon then is he really that 'good'? Since more often than not he can't play. 

Your job as a captain is to field the best possible lineup, not the best, as it has to be achievable. If you decide to take a chance and bring in 6 'main' players with 2 'fillers' then that's fine, but you absolutely cannot turn around to the admin team and ask for an extension because one guy was 'off'. The player minimum is there for a reason and if you end up being forced to play a playoff game because one of your main guys can't play, well then that's completely your fault for not acquiring good enough backup players. 

Ideally do WOs have a place in playoffs? No. Alas we don't live in a perfect idyllic world now do we? So such a thing will inevitably occur once in a while. 

You have good points there but what comes about PlayOffs, I stay on my side. It's easy to use best lineup @ playoffs, if you have 6 or 7 very active players. It's not very easy to get good enough backups. I don't wanna run 8 players circus if we got room for 6 or 7 mans party. But as I said, things/cases like that doesn't happen very often. Luckily. This time the case was super unlucky. But I don't expect anything. I know this is kinda special case and I don't have too many players on my side.

Every Captain ride their roads as they want and I promise I will not face that kinda situation anymore. But just in case, there could be something different in rules.

21 minuuttia sitten, Leksa94 kirjoitti:

@FlyerKungen Imagine how long the playoffs would take or how hard it would be to get the games played if everyone thinks like you? 

There would be eight teams in elite playoffs asking for more time because someone from their best possible lineup are on vacation, hangover, tired or cat has eaten someones playstation. And if your biggest argument is "this isn't competitive" there aren't any reasons to change anything based on that. NHL teams are playing their games too, even if somebody is injured and they can't use their best lineup.

We need rules and scheludes, if it's too hard to follow them, don't participate.

I'm tired of this new generation where minority thinks that everything should go like they want and how it's best for them, even if it harms the majority.

Did I say that would be usual or common situation to trying get longer deadlines? Don't be so simple. I don't think so. And I talked about few days or something like that. If something happens and only for special case. And there would not be eight teams asking that in Elite, U know that. So don't use color pens just bc you can't figure out anything smart. But that NHL argument was fun, I waited when somebody use that.

I don't know why I'm even answering to you, bc I see you haven't read even half of my messages. I said I respect rules and stick with those what we have at the moment. Can you bring anything wise on the table?

And that bolded magic. It tells me that you are basic finnish boy with cute face with lots of instagram followers. When somebody tells their opinion which is based on only their own experience, people think like you said. If you think I'm here bc everything should go like I want or what is best for me. You need to open your eyes.

Edited November 29, 2017 by FlyerKungen

21 minuuttia sitten, FlyerKungen kirjoitti:

Did I say that would be usual or common situation to trying get longer deadlines? Don't be so simple. I don't think so. And I talked about few days or something like that. If something happens and only for special case. And there would not be eight teams asking that in Elite, U know that. So don't use color pens just bc you can't figure out anything smart. But that NHL argument was fun, I waited when somebody use that.

I don't know why I'm even answering to you, bc I see you haven't read even half of my messages. I said I respect rules and stick with those what we have at the moment. Can you bring anything wise on the table?

And that bolded magic. It tells me that you are basic finnish boy with cute face with lots of instagram followers. When somebody tells their opinion which is based on only their own experience, people think like you said. If you think I'm here bc everything should go like I want or what is best for me. You need to open your eyes.

Anna sille.  

5 minuuttia sitten, Tuukka.R kirjoitti:

Anna sille.  

It's called playoff kiima.

But yeah, I'm out. Case closed.

Love ya all! Mostly lekker tho.

I think a week is more than enough to play 4-7 games. If you’re not able to field your best lineup, that’s on you I think. 

4 tuntia sitten, FlyerKungen kirjoitti:

.....in playoffs staff can be more flexible and give 0,5 or 1 week more time just bc of one or two key players can't play. It's not too much, imo. I love competitive NHL and I wanna play with our best players against opponents best players...

I wrote my comment based on that statement because in my opinion that just sounds stupid.
 

1 tunti sitten, FlyerKungen kirjoitti:

And that bolded magic. It tells me that you are basic finnish boy with cute face with lots of instagram followers. When somebody tells their opinion which is based on only their own experience, people think like you said. If you think I'm here bc everything should go like I want or what is best for me. You need to open your eyes. 

Bugimir is in miami right now and you don't want to play against us before he comes back to finland. Okay, maybe it's coincidence that you are writing something like that here just now.. Sorry, maybe I just made a stupid prejudice. 

And what comes about my face or instagram followers, it's not relevant at all.

Anyway see you on the virtual ice and hopefully in nhlgamer cruise someday!
 

Edited November 29, 2017 by Leksa94

Whaaat

7 minutes ago, Leksa94 said:

I wrote my comment based on that statement because in my opinion that just sounds stupid.
 

Bugimir is in miami right now and you don't want to play against us before he comes back to finland. Okay, maybe it's coincidence that you are writing something like that here just now.. Sorry, maybe I just made a stupid prejudice. And what comes about my face or instagram followers, it's not relevant at all.

Anyway see you on the virtual ice and hopefully in nhlgamer cruise someday!
 

Lul wtf? When is bugimir meant to be back? 

33 minutes ago, Leksa94 said:

I wrote my comment based on that statement because in my opinion that just sounds stupid.
 

Bugimir is in miami right now and you don't want to play against us before he comes back to finland. Okay, maybe it's coincidence that you are writing something like that here just now.. Sorry, maybe I just made a stupid prejudice. 

And what comes about my face or instagram followers, it's not relevant at all.

Anyway see you on the virtual ice and hopefully in nhlgamer cruise someday!
 

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@Leksa94 You can say and you can think anything you want. I said earlier I started this bc what happened against Dynasty. Ofc I need some reason to start discussion.

Its fun how you think you know everything. Tbh, today and tomorrow we are not even able to get six players online. If you think I lie, I can't do nothing. 

I know everything too. Guy who boosts himself in CoD and loops in NHL is playing Jesus here right now.

Cya on cruise.

3 minutes ago, FlyerKungen said:

@Leksa94 You can say and you can think anything you want. I said earlier I started this bc what happened against Dynasty. Ofc I need some reason to start discussion.

Its fun how you think you know everything. Tbh, today and tomorrow we are not even able to get six players online. If you think I lie, I can't do nothing. 

I know everything too. Guy who boosts himself in CoD and loops in NHL is playing Jesus here right now.

Cya on cruise.

And if you could you still wouldn't play or what? I don't have a problem with waiting until the final few days of a weekly timeframe to play assuming both teams are cool with it. But if it's just one team dragging their feet and being overly annoying in terms of scheduling then yea, that's the perfect place for WOs in a playoff round. 

21 minuuttia sitten, MartindalexC kirjoitti:

And if you could you still wouldn't play or what? I don't have a problem with waiting until the final few days of a weekly timeframe to play assuming both teams are cool with it. But if it's just one team dragging their feet and being overly annoying in terms of scheduling then yea, that's the perfect place for WOs in a playoff round. 

Yea I would still drink my morning coffee even without a milk...

Jengi o suolast

32 minuuttia sitten, FlyerKungen kirjoitti:

@Leksa94 You can say and you can think anything you want. I said earlier I started this bc what happened against Dynasty. Ofc I need some reason to start discussion.

Its fun how you think you know everything. Tbh, today and tomorrow we are not even able to get six players online. If you think I lie, I can't do nothing. 

I know everything too. Guy who boosts himself in CoD and loops in NHL is playing Jesus here right now.

Cya on cruise.

Oh god I should just ignore you.. I thought you said you were out and case is closed.

I'm not trying to be jesus, I just said my opinion... Hope you can handle it  

 

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First I'm basic finnish boy with cute face and lots of instagram followers, now you add looper and cod booster. I love how you stick to this topic and write this relevant stuff here. Anything else in your pocket? But yeah, like you (and many others) know, I made very stupid decision once in NHL17. I won't make same mistake again. That diamond camouflage looks amazing in cod though!

 

1 minute ago, Leksa94 said:

 

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First I'm basic finnish boy with cute face and lots of instagram followers, now you add looper and cod booster. I love how you stick to this topic and write this relevant stuff here. Anything else in your pocket? But yeah, like you (and many others) know, I made very stupid decision once in NHL17. I won't make same mistake again. That diamond camouflage looks amazing in cod though!

 

 

What did you do? Buy the game? 

44 minuuttia sitten, Leksa94 kirjoitti:

Oh god I should just ignore you.. I thought you said you were out and case is closed.

I'm not trying to be jesus, I just said my opinion... Hope you can handle it  

 

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First I'm basic finnish boy with cute face and lots of instagram followers, now you add looper and cod booster. I love how you stick to this topic and write this relevant stuff here. Anything else in your pocket? But yeah, like you (and many others) know, I made very stupid decision once in NHL17. I won't make same mistake again. That diamond camouflage looks amazing in cod though!

 

I tried. But u said wrong things about us so you forced me to come back and make things straight.

And yeah, I writed much relevant stuff like you. Maybe I only came here to bully you. Maybe we stop this trash talk. Idk. I can handle you my friend, we're cool here.

4 tuntia sitten, Leksa94 kirjoitti:

Oh god I should just ignore you.. I thought you said you were out and case is closed.

I'm not trying to be jesus, I just said my opinion... Hope you can handle it  

 

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First I'm basic finnish boy with cute face and lots of instagram followers, now you add looper and cod booster. I love how you stick to this topic and write this relevant stuff here. Anything else in your pocket? But yeah, like you (and many others) know, I made very stupid decision once in NHL17. I won't make same mistake again. That diamond camouflage looks amazing in cod though!

 

I agree, good opinion.

So... hey... about those WOs, @FlyerKungen 

xo