ECL ’26: Winter - Ability & Build Bans Update

On 11/7/2025 at 2:59 PM, iSvamp said:

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Point by point:

Close Quarters goals do not “just happen anyway”. CQ modifies release priority and aim assist inside close radius. Without CQ many of these shots do not trigger the high speed priority release animation. Frame comparison testing shows completely different outcome from the same shot simply because CQ unlocks a different animation branch.

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I'm not gonna talk about the rest of the post (as a side note, Svamp I've known you for how many years now? I know for a fact that you do not understand half of the words used in your post, please put down chatgpt for a sec)

Close quarters did NOT unlock different animations.

 

Edited 23 hours ago by MartindalexC

41 minuter sedan, MartindalexC säger:

I'm not gonna talk about the rest of the post (as a side note, Svamp I've known you for how many years now? I know for a fact that you do not understand half of the words used in your post, please put down chatgpt for a sec)

Close quarters did NOT unlock different animations.

 

It extended your forward career by at least two years, So it definitely does something to the animations.

13 minutes ago, iSvamp said:

It extended your forward career by at least two years, So it definitely does something to the animations.

My guy, I'm one of the few that didn't use it sooo 😂 strange comment aside, please show frame-by-frame breakdown of "different animation branch" because again, that's not what close quarters did. 

ban all perks. Dialed in is a joke. make some saves and u can stay afk for the rest of the game.

På 2025-10-29 på 23:24, antoniomannen004 säger:

Also

 

We have banned like 70% of skater abilites, still the goalie abilities are untouched

 

Goalies are apparently more protected than the president of the united states i guess

Skill issue? No funny passing glitch or something this year so you can’t score? I’m sure you’ll find one soon.

Yeah lets ban everything  ahahah now its dialed in problem, i told you before there is no op abilities for goalies, their doesnt matter already how many years, its just slightly give a bit  better counter to some skater abilities, like this year we realy bad goalies - we dont have xray, no tee, lightwork, like we have just stupid dialed in and showstopper to use or sponge, but their are useless abilities. Im sure, i can go without abiltiies and still save 20+ shots in game, you all think its abilities, but i proved last tournament without abiltiies, that if you ban all abiltiies, goalies become even more op , because there is no glitch's errors to saves. This year we finaly can stop puck and you all crying because dont changing your gameplay, we still let in stupid easy goals for no reason, and you still crying that we getting some unbelievable saves. 

Last year we had to choose builts, perks and attributes , so if you go one you cant do other and so on. This year they give like this abilties some so we dont have other choice to use all the same style and then they give jus unbelievable lot of attributes points, im going crazy on everything now and dont need to bother of changing styles ahaha. but yeah still our attributes is making slightly different outcomes, like ones who actualy working is agility, speed, endurance, durability, vision, and recovery, all other is just useless.
Dialed in is joke? okey, quick release is joke, one timer perk is joke so cmon... yeah ban it all , and you will cry even more, because goalies will be realy realy good.

Edited 9 hours ago by saaggssy

4 timmar sedan, Axelsson säger:

ban all perks. Dialed in is a joke. make some saves and u can stay afk for the rest of the game.

Skill issue? No funny passing glitch or something this year so you can’t score? I’m sure you’ll find one soon.

Nah far from it, but goalie is the only position on the ice where u can get away with being bad at the game

 

If a skater makes a mistake and gives shit pass right to opponent u wont get bailed out, as a goalie if u leave half the net open 50% of times sponge or some shit will activate and bail you out, it makes no sense

 

All i want is goalies to be truly good players for once and not depend on ea giving you auto animations 😥

 

 

And if we wanna be real that passing glitch was a skill issue on goalies side, if some goalies had some hockey iq and tried to read the shooter if u just stay in butterfly and anticipate it, it would not go in, but instead everyone stood up and was crying about the world being against them as usual 

Edited 9 hours ago by antoniomannen004

Are you serious? did you play goalie in pros ECL or played against elite players? i would like to see that. And then talk its afk position. So many skaters think its afk position everything is easy there, but when come to net - ouh no, i will enver go goalie again.

EA gives to us nothing, this animations always brokes, glitches, they give everything to skater - glitch goals, uneblieavable speed, reaction time, changing directions in last situation, letting interference goalies, giving bad defensive interceptions, making us not fully cover posts and so on. Giving bad deflections, not stoping easy frontal snipes , shots from blue lane, we get stuck in animation on breakaways, but skater can freely move. so before talking goalies is afk position and can play everyone, go and play in pros and you will delete this game. 

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And if we wanna be real that passing glitch was a skill issue on goalies side, if some goalies had some hockey iq and tried to read the shooter if u just stay in butterfly and anticipate it, it would not go in, but instead everyone stood up and was crying about the world being against them as usual 

if you pay attention to game, then you will see that goalies letting goals trough pads while floating on ice already how many years you exploit this shit, not shooting but making this pass glitch goal, when goalies dont react because animation dont trigger, i let in so many goals this game when i fully on the ice butterflying but goals went in anyway. so you are actualy kinda stupid then if you think, that we dont butterfly in time and all as goalies just dont read nothing, we are reacting but that doesnt matter, because puck somehow goes trough, and this your perks is even more delaying responses.Everyone who always crying is skaters, because they cant score, and then ea change as too deep shit, and you all happy. Also everyone elite, pro goalie will say that this fivehole glitch is ridicilously stupid and unstoppable. Also if you stay in butterfly too long, skater will just skate you around and let in goal to empty net, so before talking about goalies try to play it some time.

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All i want is goalies to be truly good players for once and not depend on ea giving you auto animations 😥

same, i would like to see that skaters is actualy skilled and not relaying on abilities, who make us goalies let in easy frontal shot because he uses some kinda quick release, or one timer freezed me on animation, because of golden one tee, or you shoot trough covered shortside post. Skaters dont need to beat goalies they just shoot and pray, thats how you play, and then you cry that we stop most of times, when you bump goalie or try to glitch something in and its not working. you are ELite? but talking like neo.

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If a skater makes a mistake and gives shit pass right to opponent u wont get bailed out, as a goalie if u leave half the net open 50% of times sponge or some shit will activate and bail you out, it makes no sense

I played against goalie who used sponge in ECL preseason. I saved 20+ shots without your all loved sponge. And he couldnt make saves. its proves there is nothing to do with abilities, lol.

 

If goalie was that easy, then there would not gonna matter what you take to your team net, everyone could play goalie and you will not need to draft good goalies. But how you can see some guys is better then others, and its not because ea decides who afk better, or what, its because we learn how to minimise this glitches, we learn skater habits, and react to them and everything goes with practice and experience. But still its not enough because you gonna get some love from ea and then tell - goalie sucks cant save shit.yeah ban it all , and you will cry even more, because goalies will be realy realy good.

Edited 8 hours ago by saaggssy

51 minuuttia sitten, antoniomannen004 kirjoitti:

Nah far from it, but goalie is the only position on the ice where u can get away with being bad at the game

 

If a skater makes a mistake and gives shit pass right to opponent u wont get bailed out, as a goalie if u leave half the net open 50% of times sponge or some shit will activate and bail you out, it makes no sense

 

All i want is goalies to be truly good players for once and not depend on ea giving you auto animations 😥

 

 

And if we wanna be real that passing glitch was a skill issue on goalies side, if some goalies had some hockey iq and tried to read the shooter if u just stay in butterfly and anticipate it, it would not go in, but instead everyone stood up and was crying about the world being against them as usual 

Totally agree with this! There has been many that kind of situations where goalie has been positioned bad and there is like half open net and still goalie is able to save those shots when sponge or some other ability activate. Most of those shots should be goals so i think there is need to re-think banning some goalie abilities too

if you ban dialed in or showstopper or sponge, then you should ban quick release and one timer perk, because then its make nonsense take away goalies abilities, but leave the most useable shooting perks  also if you do that, then there is no reason to not banning everything. if you decided to keep abilities, then i dont see reason to ban goalie abilities, you still can score right? still teams can win 5:0 and still can play 5:5 so nothing wrong here. If it was like we geting 90% saves and only 1 goal in game, then you could cry, but i dont see problem for now.

also there in ea logic is a lot against real nhl goalies philosophy what should stop you for beign score, so say we leave half net open and then save, okey, but are we save because we afk? or we pre readed and moved to that save? also if you are frontal to puck square you should save 90% of time puck, but its not happening because of quick release. of course you need to beat goalie out of position and screen to get goals, thats how it should be, not only shoot and - oh goalie let in self what a beautifull goal, or goalie get bumped and hitted in face and then scored - what a beautifull goal. i can say lazy teams will not score, teams who move puck a lot, will score more- thats how it should be, because goalie is wall, and its why he is there, if you want to score, you need to move that wall, better goalie less moves, and you need to figure out how to beat him. where you saw in real nhl that goalie will let in every shot what is frontal or even close net shot its not going in so often. real game we got like 2:1 3:1 goals in games, in ea we got 5:1 its so common or 5:5 or even more, so i dont see problem of scoring ahahah. goalie should be the same level as skater, not less effective. but you all think that we are king of the ice and we should let in more, when you score on us 5 goals in 10 shots.

Edited 6 hours ago by saaggssy

7 timmar sedan, antoniomannen004 säger:

Nah far from it, but goalie is the only position on the ice where u can get away with being bad at the game

 

If a skater makes a mistake and gives shit pass right to opponent u wont get bailed out, as a goalie if u leave half the net open 50% of times sponge or some shit will activate and bail you out, it makes no sense

 

All i want is goalies to be truly good players for once and not depend on ea giving you auto animations 😥

 

 

And if we wanna be real that passing glitch was a skill issue on goalies side, if some goalies had some hockey iq and tried to read the shooter if u just stay in butterfly and anticipate it, it would not go in, but instead everyone stood up and was crying about the world being against them as usual 

Yeah, so – if they’re going to ban all goalie perks, then they also need to remove the players’ “Super Backhand Shot” and “Thunder Shot” perks. After a one-timer, goalies get this kind of “penalty” that makes them freeze up, which a real goalie would never do – unless you have “Post to Post” to counter it.

And “Sponge” might as well be removed too if they’re already taking away the shooting perks. It’s ridiculous that you can fire off a backhand shot from half the ice (okay, I’m exaggerating a bit) – but even from the blue line straight into the top corner? Come on.

Honestly, removing all perks would be the only fair solution.

I’ve seen plenty of shots where the goalie is out of position and still makes a stretched-out save (which I’m also against), but very few of the well-placed shots – the ones that graze the post – actually go in. That’s probably because there are very few players who can actually aim really well.

So yeah, I’m 100% in favor of banning goalie perks, but then the super shot perks have to go as well.

Hi guys,

just want to put my 2 pence in this conversation, I think the current bans that have been set out are good I don’t agree with banning goalie perks the game has enough bullshit against goalies without taking away the only thing that counters some of the bullshit!

I personally don’t use dialed in and if goalie was so easy there would be top goalies everywhere and we know that isn’t the case. Quick release is crazy and can counter every single ability the goalie has..

if goalie abilities were broken most games would be low scoring tight games (im not saying they’re not good abilities) but they’re needed especially against stupid shit like beauty backhand the main broken abilities have been banned and the season ahead will be a tester to see what needs tweaking! 
 

 

25 minuter sedan, Brainrovsky säger:

Hi guys,

just want to put my 2 pence in this conversation, I think the current bans that have been set out are good I don’t agree with banning goalie perks the game has enough bullshit against goalies without taking away the only thing that counters some of the bullshit!

I personally don’t use dialed in and if goalie was so easy there would be top goalies everywhere and we know that isn’t the case. Quick release is crazy and can counter every single ability the goalie has..

if goalie abilities were broken most games would be low scoring tight games (im not saying they’re not good abilities) but they’re needed especially against stupid shit like beauty backhand the main broken abilities have been banned and the season ahead will be a tester to see what needs tweaking! 
 

 

"enough bullshit against goalies" thanks for proving my point

I sometimes play a goalie. I don't care about abilities, you can ban them all. 

49 minuuttia sitten, Axelsson kirjoitti:

Yeah, so – if they’re going to ban all goalie perks, then they also need to remove the players’ “Super Backhand Shot” and “Thunder Shot” perks. After a one-timer, goalies get this kind of “penalty” that makes them freeze up, which a real goalie would never do – unless you have “Post to Post” to counter it.

And “Sponge” might as well be removed too if they’re already taking away the shooting perks. It’s ridiculous that you can fire off a backhand shot from half the ice (okay, I’m exaggerating a bit) – but even from the blue line straight into the top corner? Come on.

Honestly, removing all perks would be the only fair solution.

I’ve seen plenty of shots where the goalie is out of position and still makes a stretched-out save (which I’m also against), but very few of the well-placed shots – the ones that graze the post – actually go in. That’s probably because there are very few players who can actually aim really well.

So yeah, I’m 100% in favor of banning goalie perks, but then the super shot perks have to go as well.

In this clip every Mythix players have that "Super Backhand Shot" ability and from Mustaa Kulta Aaro. These clips are only from 2 games but based on these I dont see that issue even its bit unrealistic. 

About onetimers where goalie freeze, from my understand its bs bug but it happens when goalie is bit off position or sit ass in the net. I dont see that happen good goalies when they are challenging shooter and position well. Sry for bad english dont know how to explain it better, maybe should use Chatgpt like some other.

8 minuter sedan, txmbo999 säger:

In this clip every Mythix players have that "Super Backhand Shot" ability and from Mustaa Kulta Aaro. These clips are only from 2 games but based on these I dont see that issue even its bit unrealistic. 

About onetimers where goalie freeze, from my understand its bs bug but it happens when goalie is bit off position or sit ass in the net. I dont see that happen good goalies when they are challenging shooter and position well. Sry for bad english dont know how to explain it better, maybe should use Chatgpt like some other.

ok i was reading on the post to post "eliminates reaction penalties on perfect one timers"

31 minuuttia sitten, txmbo999 kirjoitti:

In this clip every Mythix players have that "Super Backhand Shot" ability and from Mustaa Kulta Aaro. These clips are only from 2 games but based on these I dont see that issue even its bit unrealistic. 

About onetimers where goalie freeze, from my understand its bs bug but it happens when goalie is bit off position or sit ass in the net. I dont see that happen good goalies when they are challenging shooter and position well. Sry for bad english dont know how to explain it better, maybe should use Chatgpt like some other.

And that freeze animation happens only when player got green timed one timers, not bc abilities.