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  1. We will thinking to made new leagues for players. Maybe low fees or free to play, just because guys want to PLAY 6s. Hit some reaction if you're interest about new tournaments, for everyone and different levels of players. Good night gamer. It was nice ride, not crying about fees for hobbies but if we have some prizepools, you NEED TO PAY funds back for winners. Sadly Kenu sold that firm for untrusted brothers, it's not community responsibly to fix that financial problem year to year. Everything went to down when NHLGamer turned into SG.
    45 points
  2. This calculation has been around the community for a while. From what I remember, it was based on the license setup and pricing during NHL 24, using the actual number of teams per division that year. It also includes both Winter and Spring seasons, plus the officially announced prize pools. 💰 Original Community Estimate Elite 💳 Player Licenses: 6 players × 16 teams × 40 € = 3,840 € 🏒 Team Licenses: 16 teams × 1,000 € = 16,000 € 💰 Total Revenue: 19,840 € 🏆 Prize Pool: 18,920 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 920 € Pro 💳 Player Licenses: 8 players × 32 teams × 40 € = 10,240 € 🏒 Team Licenses: 32 teams × 700 € = 22,400 € 💰 Total Revenue: 32,640 € 🏆 Prize Pool: 6,192 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 26,448 € Lite 💳 Player Licenses: 8 players × 64 teams × 40 € = 20,480 € 🏒 Team Licenses: 64 teams × 400 € = 25,600 € 💰 Total Revenue: 46,080 € 🏆 Prize Pool: 6,261 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 39,819 € Core 💳 Player Licenses: 8 players × 48 teams × 40 € = 15,360 € 🏒 Team Licenses: 48 teams × 222 € = 10,656 € 💰 Total Revenue: 26,016 € 🏆 Prize Pool: 1,980 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 24,036 € Total (Top 4 Divisions) 💰 Total Revenue: 124,576 € 🏆 Total Prize Pool: 33,353 € 📈 SportsGamer Profit: 91,223 € Summary: Only 26.7% of all money collected actually went back to the players. The remaining 73.3% stayed with SportsGamer. And as many of us know, some teams were even offered to skip their prize payout entirely, in exchange for having it deducted from their next season’s license fee. Which, while fair on paper, doesn’t change the percentages above. What SportsGamer Said Themselves Their official statement in the thread said: “Following a later decision that reclassified the licenses under a higher rate, SportsGamer has been required to apply 24–25.5% VAT, which has significantly increased our costs and placed a heavy strain on our finances. In practice, this means that of the total amount paid for licenses, roughly 20% goes to taxes, about 50% to prize payments, and around 30% to operational costs.” So, let’s recalculate using their own explanation. According to Their Claimed Distribution (20% / 50% / 30%) Category Amount (€) Share Total Revenue 124,576 € 100 % Taxes (≈20%) 24,915 € 20 % Prize Money (50%) 62,288 € 50 % Operational Costs (30%) 37,373 € 30 % Total 124,576 € 100 % Comparison Source Total Revenue (€) Prize Pool (€) % to Players Difference Community Estimate 124,576 € 33,353 € 26.7 % — SportsGamer’s Own Claim 124,576 € 62,288 € 50.0 % +23.3 % If we take their numbers at face value, it would mean that half of all collected money went back to players. Which sounds great — except that it clearly didn’t. The official prize pools are nowhere near that. Their own math completely contradicts the public data. Even if we assume 20% VAT was paid (fair enough), that still leaves about 99,660 € within the company. Out of that, according to their statement, 62,288 € should’ve gone to prizes. But the actual amount distributed was 33,353 €. That’s a gap of roughly 28,935 € per season, using their own claimed figures. If their 20 / 50 / 30 split was real: The tax is fine, it’s part of the license cost anyway. The prize pool should’ve been closer to 62,000 €, not 33,000 €. About 29,000 € per season is simply unaccounted for. So the question becomes even more obvious: where did the money go? And when they now say that no salary has been paid to Kenu since December 2024, it raises even more questions. Because if no salary was paid, the money clearly isn’t showing up as prizes, taxes, or operating costs either. As Janikka said perfectly in her post: "have questions about the current organizational or ownership dynamics. A company called Reactio Media is or was somehow involved (as evidenced by the current Twitch account that hosts all the SportsGamer streams). I can't find any pertinent information about the company online, but its owners are involved in various companies whose background information is available." This whole thing didn’t clarify anything , it just made it all look even more suspicious. At this point, the picture being painted is less of a struggling company… and more of a pyramid-shaped business model. I’m not a mathematician, and I’m not an economist. But what’s certain is that the total amount of paid licenses adds up more or less correctly. It’s everything else that doesn’t add up.
    24 points
  3. Let’s be honest. This isn’t transparency. It’s damage control. SportsGamer has been struggling for years, and it’s not because of Twitch or sponsorships. It’s because of poor management and a lack of honesty. You’ve been collecting license fees from players season after season, while prize payments have been delayed or disappeared altogether. That’s not bad luck. That’s bad leadership. You say that 20% of the money goes to taxes, 50% to prizes, and 30% to operations. If that’s true, then prize pools should already be secured before the tournaments even begin. Instead, it’s obvious that player license fees are being used to pay your ongoing expenses. That means players have been funding your operations, not their own prize pools. And now you talk about seeking external funding to pay off prize money that’s already overdue. No legitimate company does that. If the money was handled properly, there would be no need for investors to cover the gap. It’s clear that the funds have been mismanaged. Then comes the part where you ask the community whether we’d still play if the prize pools were reduced. That’s not a survey. That’s a way to soften the blow before you announce that the money is gone. It’s an attempt to make players feel responsible for your mistakes! At this point, SportsGamer is no longer running as a community platform. It’s running like a pyramid scheme. New license fees pay old debts, management keeps their salary, and when the structure starts collapsing, you try to shift the blame onto the players. This isn’t about delays anymore. It’s about trust and integrity. You built this scene on passion, volunteer work, and player effort. You’ve now used that trust to keep a sinking ship afloat. If you truly care about this community, then prove it. Publish the numbers. Show exactly where the money went. Let the players see what’s real. Until that happens, no team, player, or sponsor should continue supporting SportsGamer. You don’t fix broken trust with surveys or nice words. You fix it by paying what you owe and telling the truth. To the SportsGamer leadership Your statement doesn’t fix the problem, it confirms it. You’ve collected license fees season after season, promised prize pools that were never secured, and now admit to needing external funding to pay players what they’re owed. The community deserves accountability, not vague apologies and PR language. If SportsGamer truly values “transparency,” then publish the books. Show where the license money went. Show the debt. Show the shareholders. Until that happens, no player, sponsor, or organization should continue funding this structure. You don’t get to “survey your way out of accountability.” Pay the winners. Publish the numbers. Or shut it down. // A long-time EHL/ECL player who’s done watching you exploit this community.
    24 points
  4. It has now been several months — in some cases nearly a full year — and yet many teams and players have still not received their prize pool payments. This delay is completely unacceptable and must be addressed immediately. (Reason we got first not sure what it is now) international payment processing is not a valid excuse in this day and age. Transfers of this nature can be handled efficiently and securely within days using modern platforms. Suggesting otherwise only raises more questions about the handling of funds and organizational transparency. calling for a public update that includes: A detailed breakdown of the prize pool status for all affected teams. Clear payment timelines for each party. A real explanation of the delays — not vague references to "international issues." Prize pool payments are not a courtesy — they are contractual obligations. The continued silence or vague communication on this matter damages trust across the community and sets a dangerous precedent for future events. This situation demands accountability. We urge you to take it seriously and respond accordingly. I
    21 points
  5. I have questions about the current organizational or ownership dynamics. A company called Reactio Media is or was somehow involved (as evidenced by the current Twitch account that hosts all the SportsGamer streams). I can't find any pertinent information about the company online, but its owners are involved in various companies whose background information is available. https://www.proff.fi/yrityksen/sports-gamer-oy/espoo/kuntosalit-ja-muu-urheilu/3192899-5I10L8 Here is some information on SportsGamer where we find those two names, the Salutskijs, that are involved in various companies, including SportsGamer today. Before I pay for any license or other fees to anyone, I want full transparency on the ownership. Who are these guys? What exactly does their involvement in SportsGamer entail? Some of the companies they are involved in have notably high turnover rates (which in no way guarantees that these companies are profitable, of course, but it's an interesting detail). Is some of the money SportsGamer collects from the community going to the Salutskijs somehow, despite your financial breakdown in the official update? Have the Salutskijs contributed to the finances of SportsGamer at any point? https://pureevents.fi/ota-yhteytta/ I also found this, a company called Pure Events. Perhaps formerly known as Reactio Media? The contact page includes the Salutskijs and some people who are much more familiar to us here on SportsGamer. So, my attempted sleuthing is all over the place, as you can see. I'm just confused about the big picture. I am not leveling any accusations. I just want information. What's going on behind the scenes?
    15 points
  6. Good morning everyone, Some of you know me as a former writer and member of the ECL board. You may accuse me of bias, but I hope you’ll also understand that my approach is to say that we are, to some extent, all complicit. I’ve tried to read everyone’s replies to the original message, which raises questions we have indeed been asking ourselves for quite some time. I salute the research and calculations that have been done (greetings to Swamp), just as I salute the messages that seek to understand before condemning. It is indeed necessary to ask SportsGamer and its shareholders to present the accounts and explain what the investment strategy has been and how revenues have been allocated. In fact, the greatest fault we can impute to SportsGamer is failing to uphold its commercial commitments to its users. The rules of the competition have been flouted, therefore the competition itself has been flouted. Anger about the cash prizes is legitimate and irrevocable. Facts are facts. But since the French can sometimes be some pain in the ......., allow me to take on that role. I note that teams and players have not received the cash prizes promised from previous editions that were owed to them. Despite this serious breach of a prior regulatory agreement, these same people chose to keep taking part on the next editions. Why? Naivety? Indifference? Solidarity?....... The lure of gain? It seems that rumors try to show that some players play the ECL in exchange for financial considerations. I have personnaly nothing against that, but it goes against a fundamental economic logic: the e-hockey business doesn’t exist. Did you guys were really surprised when real-life pro teams withdrew their aagreement for esports teams to use their actual brand? Did they see any signals pointing to the lack of an audience and, therefore, to the limited, if not non-existent, incentive to invest effort in a dead-end marketing path? Covid was both the best and the worst thing that happened to esports. It temporarily accelerated esports. Audiences turned to Twitch in the absence of alternatives. Yet this rise was artificial. It fostered a speculative bubble that, regrettably, incentivized naive and avaricious behavior. Then the speculative bubble was born and misled everyone: SportsGamer’s leaders and its users. Well even Formula 1 esport audience is unexisting and we still think ehockey can be a business? Can generate incomes? Can generate pro players payed to play ECL Elite or Pro? And finally, let’s not forget the vast majority of players who come here to play the best 6v6 tournament in the world, the most structured, the most enduring, and the most competitive. Those guys don’t care about cash prizes. Many, like me, knew NHL Gamer in its earlier form, and the way it worked back then suited us just fine. Some teams show up simply for the pleasure of taking part, with no real ambition of winning the tournament (especially when they’re on the central server). I don’t necessarily want SG centralized streams, I don’t necessarily want social platforms, and I don’t want cash prizes either... I just want to play with my friends and have fun. Nothing more. But a promise is a promise, and the announced amounts are owed to the teams and players. This is the very basis of the original deal: pay an entry fee and compete to win cash prizes. SG must settle all amounts owed in full. So… SportsGamer must present its accounts: yes (it seems to be proven that the VAT argument is shaky). SportsGamer must honor its legal commitments: yes (I am, as chairman of an ECL Pro team, among those to whom funds are owed as creditors of SG). Those who dreamed of a life as professional e-hockey players are guilty of their own vanity. This doesn't remove responsibility from SG’s front office and shareholders, for the current situation, but it perhaps distributes the blame somewhat more evenly. With my kind regards Yann, Vitual_Saku
    14 points
  7. Thank you for your openness and honesty, but I have many questions running through my mind. Who are these shareholders? The company’s board includes the same people who can be found online linked to several other companies, such as Sportsgamer, Pureevents, Street Games, etc. Why haven’t the “owners” paid salaries or agreed compensations to the employees? Why should we, as a community, pay the debts of very questionable owners? I would really appreciate an honest explanation of this situation. Right now, everything looks very suspicious. I’m sorry for being so blunt. I truly appreciate you, Kenu, and I’m grateful for everything you’ve done for the community, but sometimes we just have to face the facts. I don’t know whose responsibility this is, but I strongly recommend fixing the financial situation before asking the community for more money or alternatively, turning the whole ECL into a free service with a small participation fee, like €5 per person. No prize money should be awarded until the finances are clearly in order. At the moment, it feels like you’re asking the community to pay off a debt that has accumulated over the years, and that’s simply not right. I’m not blaming anyone personally, but the whole ownership situation seems very shady right now.
    13 points
  8. Six sticks misfits (Lite) We are looking at least one defender to our old man group. If you know what is offside and know where to attack you are More ihan welcome For tryout Please contact TuomoP83 or Lamsa
    13 points
  9. Purification are back! IN: @LaxenHD "C" from Afterlife @Root_1919 "A" from Vnexs @davve78 "A" from Missclick @vilppijoona from Freeagent @Ttv_ahnbergs99 from Vnexs Welcome Boys!
    11 points
  10. Otukset looking for starting RW. Message on discord.
    11 points
  11. Supernatural (lite) Looking for starting LD Contact me here or by psn: Kozeec
    10 points
  12. Free C for upcoming tournaments contact here or psn vilppijoona
    10 points
  13. Free D for upcoming tournaments (Elite/Pro) Contact me here or discord Saviinainen
    10 points
  14. It's getting to be high time to step up. It's unbelievable that we just keep our mouths shut. WAKE UP saatana
    9 points
  15. All of you acting like you’re in a scam: just stop. Just like any small business can go bankrupt, so does SportsGamer. If they didn’t succeed in landing big sponsors then it’s extremely hard to maintain profitability when your only cash revenue is license fees & investors pumping money into the system. I can’t blame Kenu & other shareholders for trying to make money with SportsGamer but perhaps a steady cashflow would have needed to be secured in order to do big live events or celebrity live streams. I bet that’s why the license fees have gone straight to the operational costs and not the prize pools. I hope SportsGamer goes back to being an esports platform with small fees to cover operational costs only. Elite teams can play for prize pools if they wish.
    9 points
  16. Free RD/RW/C PRO/LITE Message me on psn or dc: davve_78
    8 points
  17. VESUVIUS eSport (ELITE): We had to keep one last piece.. for finish the puzzle 🧩: - It was time for one of the best talents, who has finished many times in the top five scorers in the PRO with a team that was much less equipped than the others. Of course, He comes from the land of BAGUETTES🥖, CROISSANTS🥐 WELCOME IN ELITE FRENCH GOAT 🇫🇷: @AdriF_23
    8 points
  18. This is a great post, full stop. Valid questions and research all around and count me in amongst those who would like to know the answers. One thing I would like to note is that sometimes with these things (companies in financial difficulty etc.), there are binding contracts (including NDAs) that prevent people within the company/organization from speaking out on certain topics or providing full transparency. I have no idea what the situation is in this particular case, just something to keep in mind as we await further communication and clarification.
    7 points
  19. Dear players, We just sent this by email to all ECL ’25 players, but wanted to share it here as well so everyone can see the full update. Our Journey and the Current Challenge Over the past decade, the ECL and the SportsGamer community have grown from a small group of passionate players into one of the world’s leading competitive NHL communities. We’ve shared unforgettable seasons, built friendships across borders, and created something truly special together. Today, we need to talk openly about challenges that now threaten the sustainability of that work — and what we can do together to secure its future. SportsGamer’s leadership team recently met to address the company’s financial situation and ongoing cash-flow challenges. While day-to-day operations are managed internally by Kenneth Lehtinen, financial and strategic decisions are made collectively by the company’s shareholders. What’s Affecting SportsGamer and the ECL Over the past three years, SportsGamer has faced a difficult operating environment, and unfortunately, our business has not been profitable. The overall cost of running events and maintaining operations has increased, while revenue opportunities — particularly sponsorships and streaming support — have decreased. One of the main challenges to the profitability of the ECL has been a tax ruling regarding the VAT rate applied to player licenses. VAT, or value-added tax, is a government sales tax added on top of the license fee that we are required to collect and pay to the Finnish Tax Administration. For several years, player licenses were invoiced at a 10% VAT rate, based on earlier guidance from the Finnish Tax Administration. Following a later decision that reclassified the licenses under a higher rate, SportsGamer has been required to apply 24–25.5% VAT, which has significantly increased our costs and placed a heavy strain on our finances. In practice, this means that of the total amount paid for licenses, roughly 20% goes to taxes, about 50% to prize payments, and around 30% to operational costs. In addition, a weakened market and the continued difficulty of securing sponsorships have further contributed to the situation. The streaming landscape has also changed significantly. Our long-standing cooperation with Twitch, which previously provided strong support for the ECL broadcasts, has shifted in recent years. Overall viewership across NHL content has also declined. These changes have made it more challenging to attract partners around our broadcasts, and we are now exploring alternative ways to deliver value for potential sponsors and the community alike. What We’re Doing About It Despite these challenges, the leadership team has decided to continue operations, with the goal of bringing all financial obligations up to date — including the delayed ECL prize payments. Several cost-saving measures and internal restructurings have already been implemented, which have unfortunately affected the resources available. These measures include ending COO Kenneth Lehtinen’s employment. Since then, he has continued to support operations voluntarily. No payments have been made to him since December 2024, and the company’s other shareholders have not received any salaries or compensation at any point during SportsGamer’s operations. We recognize the frustration that delays can cause, and we believe that open communication about our situation is the most responsible path forward. We are personally reaching out to all parties with pending payments to provide updates and agree on next steps. The company is also seeking external funding to help stabilize operations and ensure continuity. How You Can Help Shape the Future To ensure the long-term sustainability of both SportsGamer and the ECL, we must explore all possible savings. The most significant immediate potential adjustment lies in the size of future prize pools. We kindly ask you to share your thoughts by completing the short survey below. In particular, we want to know whether you would continue to participate in the ECL if license fees remain the same but prize pools are reduced for the 2026 seasons, as well as which elements of the ECL you value the most. 👉 [Click here to access the survey] We’ll begin reviewing the feedback after 5 days of submissions, so we encourage you to share your thoughts by then if possible. Your feedback will play a crucial role in shaping the future of the ECL and determining whether it can continue to operate in its current form. We also welcome members of the community who wish to contribute their time or skills toward supporting future seasons. If you’re interested in volunteering, please reach out to us — every bit of help can make a difference as we work to stabilize and strengthen the ECL for the future. Thank you for your understanding, honesty, and continued support. Sincerely, SportsGamer Leadership Team
    7 points
  20. SSK Esports (Elite) are looking for a goaltender that will get a chance to compete for the number one spot in our team, nationality doesnt matter! If you are interested send me a message here or on Discord L-Rubituss-L #1344.
    7 points
  21. @aaksu17 Out back to robe @xHatsi Back to starting roster @xSnaipperi Back from robe as backup
    7 points
  22. I want to be clear: I fully respect what Kenu has done and continues to do for the NHL community. That work shouldn’t be overlooked. However, the ongoing delays in prize pool payouts raise legitimate concerns. In this space, transparency is key, especially when it involves players' trust and financial matters. Having worked in this area for a while, I’m not speaking out of turn — I understand how these processes typically work. My intention isn’t to attack or accuse anyone personally, and this isn’t the place for that anyway. All I’m asking for is clarity around the delays. If there’s a valid reason, a straightforward explanation would go a long way in maintaining goodwill within the community.
    6 points
  23. My pronouns are he/him. But thanks for the compliment and for breaking down the numbers like you just did.
    6 points
  24. Here we go again.. I have had a rough start with choosing the wrong team in this game. But after some good goalkeeping coaching from my man Brainrovsky, I think it’s time for me to play goalie. Motivated Swede 32years old, speaking good sweinglish and really love to play this game. I can play 6 days a week cause I always working one night. Looking for a team to fight for the first position as G. My Discord is kabbe1992. Cheers
    6 points
  25. Free Rw. Can also consider C/RD. Contact me here or Discord.
    6 points
  26. Free for upcoming tournaments. https://sportsgamer.gg/players/5671
    6 points
  27. Welcome to the Sportsgamer circus #PayThePlayers
    5 points
  28. good song go listen to it. if gamer doenst come out with real facts and info i will not agree to pay for the missing money, because it will go lost again eventually, i have had known about gamers problems for some time so im not suprised, only suprise to me is why they havent tried to help themself with money from previous seasons when they have known about problems, to my 1+1 counting i can understand they should have some money left on pocket most probable thing is what happend is that owners too money hungry but cant really know before facts
    5 points
  29. @SportsGamer you should be reading this instead of leaving it to your admins to fight a battle that isn’t theirs… We’re all waiting for a response
    5 points
  30. It might actually be a good idea to use a program to get your grammar right. But if you want to use that as some sort of insult, that’s up to you. Maybe it’s even something you should consider yourself, to help correct the same kind of errors that happen when you play games. The hands, just like mine, aren’t quite what they used to be. If you want to go down that road and make this personal with small jabs, then fine. I can do the same and be completely transparent with you. You know what, maybe you should start using ChatGPT to think for you, because whatever that reply was supposed to be, it came out incredibly awkward. But credit where it’s due. It’s actually impressive to see you finally speak up. You’ve built quite the reputation for avoiding conflict and hiding behind your friends, so it’s refreshing to see you step out and actually respond instead of disappearing like usual. Now to the point. Nobody here ever expected you or the other volunteer admins to personally fix the finances or issue payments. The frustration isn’t aimed at the people who helped moderate tournaments or update brackets. It’s aimed at the person hiding behind the official SportsGamer account yesterday, who posted that confusing statement that somehow managed to make everything even less clear. You say you’re not part of the ownership, and that’s fair. But that’s exactly why your reply misses the point. You stepped into a discussion about accountability from the organization itself, not from unpaid helpers. When you admit you have zero insight while still trying to defend the situation, it comes across as defensive and misplaced. What people want isn’t another “I don’t know.” They want transparency from the people who took the money. The community has already done the math, and none of it adds up. There are debts, missing funds, and companies linked to the same structure that raise serious questions. Every vague or sarcastic answer just makes it worse. Nobody is asking you to solve this. But maybe stop treating legitimate criticism like it’s drama. Because while you might not have earned anything in ten years, a lot of players here have earned something worse, complete distrust.
    5 points
  31. Respectfully Svamp, what is it exactly that you want the "admins" to do here? Do you want us to reply to every post with a "yasss kween slayyy", or a "ur so right babe"? You can ascribe guilt to the admins all you want with as much fervour as you can muster, still doesn't make even a little bit of it true. Do I know the behind the scenes info about the financial state of affairs of SportsGamer? Lol, lmao even.
    5 points
  32. Funny how the “esports dream” turned into a debt collection story. Let’s be honest. We’ve all been paying for seasons with a massive risk of never seeing that money again. The only difference now is that more people in the community finally realize it. Not a single cent should go to this website until they have paid their debts to the players. If that means the platform collapses, so be it. At least then it would be transparent. You can’t revive something that’s already dead. And yes, we know the admins are reading. The silence after their last statement says it all. More questions, zero answers. Silence doesn’t look professional. It looks guilty. #PayThePlayers
    5 points
  33. thats true, most of the people crying here dont have a fukin clue how business model works, and how small is business if u make about 100k after taxes, even if u make millions or hundreds millions u can bankrupt easily if cashflow is empty, KENU has done FOR US thousands hours free label to make us cry babes happy, sure desperate ppl makes desperate moves, but it is so easy to shout here after things go wrong, in small business only one bad move or risk with money can bankrupt u, and does ppl really thinks that maintance is free, everything cost smth, and when u are small, u really cant pay much ppl for content here in website example etc... I THANK KENU AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAVE ENABLE US THIS HOBBY FOR YEARS n YEARS, every hobby cost smth, this is hobby not smth u earn your living... instead hitting man on the ground lets support community which has give us so much past 15y... TACK OCH HEJ !!!
    5 points
  34. Propably the most important thing is that you pay all the missing prize money to the players who deserve them before you start begging for more license payments. Or is the business model to pay last season's prize money from next season's license fees? If so, seems to be working great 😃
    5 points
  35. Purification looking for start G We're looking for a starting goalkeeper for the upcoming PRO qualifiers. Our goal is to be a top team in PRO next season, and we're building a competitive roster to make that happen. If you're interested, feel free to DM "LaxenHD" or Discord or send a message here on SportsGamer. If I don’t respond, you can also DM "Veronneau_" on Discord.
    5 points
  36. Vesuvius Academy looking for a RW or C starter for the next ecl and the Pro Qualifiers Msg here or dc : X_CoCo_97_X
    5 points
  37. Started playing More nhl again. Looking for a team for next ecl. I prefer ld but I can also play rd. I made New account here and my stats can be found under nick : Taunomaisterii if im not wrong. Contackt me in playstation for try outs. Psn: taunomaister11 ( not the old account).
    5 points
  38. I mean how hard can it be to say where the money is? This silence will only make them lose more teams than they already have. but maybe they dont care anymore.
    4 points
  39. Thanks Sportsgamer for coming out with some sort of gloss over explanation of what is going on. The big question now is: What about the upcoming season(s)? It is pretty obvious that the money owed in the playerbase needs to be paid back for those who want it, before the next season starts and more money is asked to be paid up for the company, because from now on people will invest their money with 100% risk of never winning anything back from the prize pool. If the company goes bankruptcy, people will never see their money and have no legal ways to demand it to be paid back. Unfortunately the "community dream" is becoming the end company. However the majority of the community never wanted or dreamed about massive prize pools or esports lifestyle, we just want to play competitive but not too serious hockey with friends and have fun! Now this part of the community is becoming the backbone of saving the company which is absolutely wrong. After all this I firmly believe that most of the community is ready to help with some sort of resurrection when it all goes down. However this requires pure honesty and open planning with the whole community. What ever the scenario is, money is needed to be paid back to someone and with small fees and time, there should be a way to go back to the glory days of NHLGamer. For Kenu I want to say, I hope you are doing well and remember there is better days ahead.
    4 points
  40. Ah, finally, the Einsteins have arrived. Always fascinating how the self-proclaimed business experts show up the moment someone mentions accountability. Let’s make this simple. The issue isn’t about understanding business models, it’s about a company that doesn’t pay out prize money that players have rightfully earned. That’s not a cashflow issue, that’s a breach of trust. If you buy a lottery ticket and win, you expect your winnings. You don’t expect to wait twelve months and be told to be patient because the organizer spent your money somewhere else. What you’re describing isn’t business, it’s mismanagement dressed up as martyrdom. “Thousands of free hours,” “small business struggles,” “support the community”… it’s the same emotional violin every time. Meanwhile, players who paid to participate are left with nothing but excuses. So please, spare us the hero speech. This isn’t a charity, it’s a paid competition. And when the house stops paying out, it stops being a game —> it becomes a scam
    4 points
  41. LA can just make a poll here for 1-2 weeks. Let’s say have every ability as an option there and everyone gets to vote for each one of them to be banned or not banned. LA can then make their decision based on these poll results. For example if 3-4 abilities rose clearly above others in the voting then ban those. It’s not a perfect solution. But it’s pretty close to the best one available. I have my own opinions on which abilities should be banned (truc, unstoppable etc), but once there’s an official decision made (especially by voting like this) I would have nothing to complain about it, even if it wouldn’t align with my own preference.
    4 points
  42. The prize pool for the Spring season alone was €24,000, yet you only accounted for a 10% tax (licenses) on the entire season. With 1,000 active players, that results in a total tax liability of around €4,000 for both Winter and Spring seasons combined. The financial and tax issues — particularly the VAT misclassification — appear to stem from internal handling and decisions made at the organizational level. It’s difficult to accept that players are now being asked to absorb the consequences of those missteps, especially when many have paid license fees in good faith, expecting timely prize payments and professional management. While I respect the effort to stabilize the organization, I believe it’s important to emphasize this: tax handling errors and financial planning shortfalls are not the responsibility of the players. They fall on the company and its leadership.
    4 points
  43. Maybe just free touraments next time and no prizepool’s, figure out how to get money to everyone from last touraments.
    4 points
  44. Free LD for the upcoming tournaments. I'm looking for a team that strives to develop their game together and on an individual level. Prefer Finnish team. Core+ Don't hesitate to contact me about try-outs. See you on the ice🤝🏽 Discord: Zysbe
    4 points
  45. VESUVIUS ACADEMY (Our second team) looking for RW/RD or who knows how to play C for Pro-Qualifer. Write me in private message thx.
    4 points
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