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CQ is uniquely oppressive to goalies so glad to see it banned, it's so demotivating letting in goals that you're correctly positioned for and should be easy saves but somehow go in anyway, sometimes even through your equipment etc. now I've also seen the flipside with the ridiculous mr fantastic saves and I agree that sucks but if you start banning goalie abilities you're just hamstringing the already horrible goaltending that's been in this game since last nhl even further. I think the best solution if you want to ban goalie abilities is to ban all shooting abilities as well, from the few EEO sauna games I've played I actually find it to be the best experience from a goalies perspective as it removes most of the bs goals created by x-factors and provides relatively consistent gameplay so would prefer that option OR just don't ban CQ so pretty much this: also big fax

You can't expect to score using the same builds that were only able to score based on a busted xfactor, so yes using a 72 / 82kg pmd now will be harder to score with - but that doesn't mean goals will necessarily be harder to come by. Want a harder shot? Make your guy heavier and sacrifice speed / acc / agility, or just dump more points into the shooting attributes. Alternatively, use a sniper so you have a harder shot by default. This is not a hard conundrum to solve imo Other player types exist.

Restrictions are never a good thing, tbh. You ban stuff and other stuff will come to haunt you, so it wont help much) for example beauty backhander or make it snappy. Why OneT and Elite Edges are still on the menu then? ofc, EE needed for skating and OneT for slap shots. But as CQ for wristers and Truc for hits) Wanna counter it - sacrifice smth. Now we are just trying to do the EA job to balance the classes. But with banning one perk we get new problems with other ones. What will we do next? Ban them too? As for CQ and different goals - look at NHL, every stupid goal from EA is there every night. Some times you close everything and it still comes through, so from realism perspective its ok imo. Saying it as a goalie - no hard feelings towards CQ at all. @Wpaanane As for poll for goalies abilities - its interesting how you will chose the perk you need to take away? ))))) There is no meta perk like Elite Edges for example - goalies depend on their defence mostly, not their perks. And @Jiihooo86 said it right, there is not so much things we can use. As a butterfly goalie i have to sacrifice some point to get needed perks. Only Hybrid can be more free in what they choose. But still idk what will help you much if you take it away) any perk can be changed with no problems. We all can play with only one main Gold perk on for example. Or there could be more balanced decision after all. Or we can cut the number of used builds in lobby idk. Time will tell. Anyway if rules are like that - we all are in one circumstances. all teams have forwards, defs and goalies)

Honestly - can't agree more. The game is the game. Period. If you can't win one way - experiment with another. Or if you want to keep it completely fair - ban all abilities. Do LA consider themselves better developers than EA? Better at balancing? I guess time will tell. Annoying that the lobby who pushed this through seem to have a monopoly on "how the game is supposed to be played" - and anything that differs is a threat to be eliminated. Whats next? Do you want to ban "Snipers" as well after the NA-(almost)sweep in the finals? It's bullshit.

Thats actually not true... You have to have different kind of ability to make different kind of desperation save animation... If u dont have contortionist perk added you cant make for example behind the back save animation or jumping on your side save animation , also you have to use your right stick to make those saves... So you want goalies to be just standing still casually moving left right and to the butterfly stance. Also you have to use points to actually have enough speed to get to those saves. If you ban abilities why do even bother to play as a goalie when everything is just moving left to right , without any chance to make different kind of saves , we arent just bot's u know

WHAT I FEEL ABOUT BANNING ABILITIES First of all i have to say that my opinions comes fully from goalie perspective. Ok lets start with the easy question , did all/some abilities need to be banned? My opinion to that question is yes. CQ , Tru , BT , and UF are way too OP in this game. As a goalie , specially BT is absolutely unfair towards goalie , and also CQ is unfair in my opinion. Banning these abilities hopefully take away some of the "meta" builds , and forces teams to make builds suitable to their own playstyle. So what about goalie abilities , should they be banned also? When i think about it , i think only banned ability should be the tipper. Goalies are really underrated as making different builds already , only 3 starting builds , and to be honest , maybe only 4-5 abilities what we use. Nobody uses any kind of skating abilities or stamina boost abilities ,or if someone do , they are in like 10% out of 90. If they ban Goalie abilities , it takes big slice out from the goalie builds. So what about the effect of banning abilities? My opinion is that banning these abilities will change the game positively. If you want to tackle or bumb you need to put points in to the strength and tackles , with cost of something else , if you want to snipe , you need to put the points to accuracy and shooting strength... Are goalies going to be OP without the BT and CQ? I think not. Actually i hope they are going to be much more balanced now. If you are below average goalkeeper against good puck moving team , i think it wont make difference if u have abilities on or not , they will find the way to score. Two good teams against eachother ---> games will be much more interesting to watch when you actually see that it wont be so easy to score with CQ , or BT. There will be allways bounces , but i think this well decrease those bouncybounce goals. Hopefully this will raise some conversation , without any hate or etc. Put some thoughts , but dont judge without playing with these rules !

Rip anything that isn't meta I guess, the poor PWF gets nuked into the ground. What is peoples obsession with just stealing NAs list without even questioning it? Nobody in pro/elite, besides maybe muki, puantso and plee, plays like them or frankly wants to play like them so it seems pretty pointless. Before literally anyone ran truculence, unstoppable force was used by like 1 person and is now banned for... reasons? But elite edges, the most overpowered trait by a mile and the only one that is straight up required and forces people to use the pmd over literally anything else is fine? Not banning elite edges if fine but wtf Is the point of banning unstoppable force.

What goalie ability are you scared of wtf 😂

Also make it so players can have max 80 faceoffs. Would be nice to use the same builds as wingers as a center😶

If the folks over at EA are not capable of rebalancing the broken boosts mechanic, nobody is. Next ECL we will again see identical builds as something else becomes the new meta. Just leave it and accept the shit gameplay, or dump boosts entirely.

option 4: no abilities at all

honestly anyone is a better dev than ea they stopped developing a good game from nhl 14/15 (old gen) ea devs are unable for years to balance defense, offense and goalkeepers also more than a game of hockey looks like a mix between COD and Pinball machine with Mario Bros cart mechanics. To me they should remove all abilities to be fair to everyone, but for sure LA doesn't think they are any better than EA devs, even though I think they would be anyway, they just try to make the games you watch on twitch or YT more fun because honestly it's been 2 years since you fell asleep in front of the screen while watching a live broadcast! Not to mention 1vs1

My guy, you are delusional.

After banning CQ, something must be done about goalie abilities. Sure, you can say you can run a sniper build or dump points in shots, but the fact is you NEED those points for speed and acceleration because that's what the meta is. You need chances first to even attempt to score goals. The same logic could be applied to goalies if their abilities were banned: if you want to save snipes, put points in glove/blocker high. They don't have to make such a decision now. Goalies are already terribly OP on straight snipes from the slot. I don't necessarily think the difference will be as major as people are making it out to be, but if we're going to start banning abilities we should do it the right way.

THANK YOU, would love option 2 personally, whats the point of banning Close Quarters and showing green light for the One Tee? Need to do something for goalie abilities for sure if CQ is banned. Who makes these decisions hello? We have a tournament in progress where only elite edges are used, these decisions were made quite quickly, i think me and many more elite players aswell would liked finish the tournament first and hear opinions after that.. People will most likely use now make it snappy as secondary ability, same effect than CQ, i dont really get this CQ ban.

This is something I’d like to see. EA should remove the whole faceoff attribute from WoC in my opinion. Of course the minor down side is having less tactics involved when the center takes a penalty. But other than that the pros are just so much bigger.

Can definitely do that in the future. A poll will be tricky though, since goalies will be heavily underrepresented in comparison to skaters and especially forwards.

Goalie abilitys ban poll next?