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Jesus, I like you...but common, you guys havent been playing for a long time. Cog used to be a top team, but you're not anymore and its because you havent been playing the game. This system benefits the ones who put time and effort into playing. I dont see what is wrong with that. I don't know if Synergy will be in the Elite division, but if not, Im looking forward to getting there. I also dont get this idea that you need to recruit top players to become a top team. I bet you didnt consider Drunken Rebels a top team when we stepped onto the scene? Well Synergy is a merge between old synergy and Drunken and I dont think the Drunken players are worse. You get better by practising and playing. You also get worse by not playing which your team is a perfect example of. Sorry that sounded more harsh than I meant...but you get the point.

This is interesting. I have not yet decided if I like the idea or not. But I have a question.. Is there a though behind making it a 3 tier/3 divisions system - elite (1), pro (2) and amateur (3) instead of a 2 tier/3 divisions system - elite (1) and 2x pro (2.1 and 2.2)? I think that a 2 tier/3 divisions system has more benefits. The top teams can compete against each other in the top division but you shorten the way for the bottom teams to reach the top league by placing them one tier below elite. This will also make the new teams facing some better teams instead of just facing "amateurs" thus letting them grow better and faster. It would also let teams like CoG that Jesus are talking about above skip playing in the amateur league with a non amateur team. I do see cons with this system as well, of course. I just wanted to know the thoughts behind the decision. /H. Sandström

I wrote a reply regarding this in the old thred. In a world where we got paid doing this and it was a PRO community it would be one thing, for the super teams I guess it will not matter at all but for the teams that are top 25 and worse I just cant see what is good with this. If this was something that "we" had to do I would have wanted to see a playoff system were every team, regardless of division, could win the whole torunament. For example that the playoff winner in ECL Pro and ECL Amateur would clash in a best of 7 qualifier to get playoff spot number 8 in ECL Elite. Pretty sure we will see way more teams breaking up mid season and so on due to this, especially when its free to play, which is insane to begin with.

I think that if the expansion of ECL teams follows that of NHLGamer users in any sort of way, you'll soon get half of the teams in the "amateur" division. I myself am not necessarily against the 3 division system but I think the middle division should have the most players, not the bottom division. Now yuou can discard my observation as trying to get myself into Division 2, and I guess it's also true, but I really do feel that there is a small-ish amount of top teams, a small-ish amount of bad teams, and the majority is average and so if the goal of division is to separate teams by playing ability the middle should be biggest. Also, I certainly don't speak for the whole community by any means but at least if, in the event that we try to bring back CoG, we're slotted in the bottom division, what is likely gonna happen is we won't be able to recruit good players and as a result we will not take part in the tourney. Maybe Jesus can join some team but I'm pretty sure Raixor and I will just "retire". To be honest I'm thinking about quitting this ECL given the unlikelyhood of my current club reaching playoffs because what's the point anymore? If I'm gonna retire anyway after this why would I suffer through the end of this fucking grind of a tournament we are currently playing? So while the jury is still out on whether this division system will grow the community, there will be at least one casualty of the system... ...Which is ironic since I've been championning a division system since forever ago. Oh well, you know what they say... FML.

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Haha. Well, thing is no experenced player will play in division 3. This is a great miscalculation from the staff.

Can someone explain the pros of division 3, that a casual league for anyone who just want to have a fun time can't deliever? You can of course have a playoff and a winner in a casual league, but don't see the point of making this part of the division system. In fact. A free league would benefit bad teams even more since they would have more fun and more even competetion. I'm happy to listen, but I haven't heard any good arguments yet, to be honest. Will stop spamming now

This is not only about me. Only representing someone who isn't part of a div 1 team. But yes of course. It dosen't feel very nice to be able to play div 1 hockey until october 2017. That is, if there isn't any setbacks and if one can assamble a team. Because like I said earlier, how easy will it be for new teams in div 3 to build something for the future with all the good players going to higher divisions? Don't get me wrong. I like the idea of divisions in a sense. However, I don't see why we need 3 divisions. If bad teams wanna play against other bad teams, why not open up a casual league for them to join? Problem solved. Why punish a lot of ok teams? Division 3 will not be enjoyable for anyone. If we wanna raise the bar for division 2 even further, we can have "play ins" to the division. That way we only get ambitious teams. Point is. There is a lot of good suggestions to use, instead of this pointless system that only takes up peoples time and energy.

Hello, me again. I have a question. In what way will having 3 divisions empowering new or lesser teams to become better? How are division 3 team suppose to get better from this? I'm afraid that it will be really hard to find good players in division 3. And even if you find one, it will be hard to keep them with the argument "play with us ... you get to play competitive in half a year". What is your thoughts? To me, this more looks like you want to close the league.

"Hello my name is Jesus. Do you want to come and play RW with our division 3 club?" Will be quite the challenge to find some good players for CoG lol OTP-free agent market it is, I guess ... Not a fan