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who cares of @FlyerKungen??????? Maybe sg you didn't understand that the common players don't give a damn about fg or all the elite players, we won't give money to you and all the magic fagili like all the people who think they are,,, elite players, the money-sucking party is over, go to work, so thanks for the 2 installments then you will explain to us how much the increase is but tell the elite players of my pipe that no one will accept your increase, it's easy to spend the money for your own business and then ask us to give it back, no, pay and disappear together with phenomenal elite players who think they don't work and take money from those who work

who cares of @FlyerKungen???????

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Three messages from SG but not an answer to propably the most asked question; WHERE has the money gone? Is the companys budgeting this bad? And as an extra question, would SG have addressed that they have not paid stuff on time and/or setup a payment plan without the communitys outroar?

well in Finland you just dont magically forget to submit financial statements to tax authority for multiple years the only thing that comes to my mind for missing statements, is if the Finnish tax authority is conducting VAT audit (for the VAT that SG might need to pay back), but SG hasn't said that this is the reason for the delay.

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In France, we often have this problem with lateness. In a company where I worked, they were the same and only got a fine after 3 years. They hadn't posted anything for 4 years. It's something that happens often, even in large groups... either forgetting, etc., yet when I was working, it was going very well!

so, to keep it simple for all the amis studs (shoutout: @LE1PAKONE). my money, no go to SG debt, no. i maybe never see it again public financial statement very nice, very concreate, when will be officially filed???

as you can see, many people don’t even understand where SG’s money has actually gone. they think costs can just be cut here and there, but most of the day to day operations are already done for free and voluntarily. i hope people use common sense discussing this. SG has monthly expenses: office rent, accounting fees, TYEL and YEL contributions, internet and electricity. on top of this, unnecessary costs like penalties(*) can add up suprisingly quickly. SG, according to them, actually lost a significant amount of money when they assumed and applied a 10% VAT rate to license fees — but the tax authority later said that was incorrect, and that they must use 24% (now 25.5%). i don’t want to speculate too much on whether SG has had to make retroactive payments for VAT increase, since I’m not an economist. however, as JakkePlay77 mentioned earlier, it’s concerning that we don’t have any public financial statements for 2023 or 2024. this raises major questions about the company’s profitability and sustainability since it is already 2025 Q4 without public data from 2023 . (*)from what I understand, they received a 1,200 € penalty from the tax authority for the missing public financial statements 6.10.2025 -> couple of days later they announce ECL will be played. ok.

No, I don’t care where players choose to play. But I’m not naive enough to ignore the problems that clearly exist. The main question is still unanswered: where did the money go? My “agenda” is simply that players have been lied to, which they obviously have. But by all means, keep insinuating what my purpose is. What’s yours then? Protecting your friends?

I stand with my goat @FlyerKungen i like my toes getting slightly burnt anyway

Its obvious, you are trying and wanting to be part of the new league so you're just seeking for problems here. Now when they promized to pay their debts and published dates when their paying, suddenly paying in installmenta is a real issue now also.

Maybe come back ? 😂

SAUDI join @FlyerKungen army 🪖

No idea what you're referring to.

I stand with @FlyerKungen's #BurningHouseArmy 🔥🏠

Im not even playing anymore but LET'S GO @FlyerKungen ARMY CMOON!!

This thread could double as a Turing test.

Watch out for the Flyerkungens army. He’s standing in the burning house and thinks it feels good. 🤑 I’ve received my prize money before too, that’s not the point. If you actually read their statement, you’d see they are months behind on multiple payouts and are now setting up installments just to pay what’s already owed. It doesn’t take a genius to see that something is seriously wrong when a company has to create a four-part payment plan for prize money that should’ve been paid long ago. So the real question is -what exactly are you yapping about?

"For years this community gave you their time, effort and trust. You spent all of it. Now it is time to stop talking and start proving" What do you mean "they spent all of it?" I have received my prize money before from sportsgamer and i'll receive it again on the date that they posted (maybe you missed it in their post), so im not sure what you're yapping about.

My goodness… what a staggering and distressing revelation this has become. I find myself utterly confounded — not merely disappointed, but genuinely astonished — by the magnitude of financial mismanagement that appears to have unfolded beneath our collective noses. One can only wonder how an enterprise that once stood as the proud cornerstone of our competitive scene has managed to descend into this state of disarray. The central question, I fear, remains unanswered: where did the money go? We are told of prize pools, of seasons completed and champions crowned — yet the victors, the very lifeblood of this community, remain unpaid. Funds that were explicitly designated for rewards seem to have evaporated into the ether. I must confess that this defies not only reason but also the basic tenets of trust and stewardship that should govern any respectable organization. And now, we are asked to display patience. We are told that this is part of some “restructuring,” that repayment will come in installments, and that future seasons will somehow balance the books of the past. With all due respect, that is not a financial strategy — it is a revolving door of obligation, a precarious cycle wherein new participants unknowingly fund the debts of old. In my part of the world, we might call it a house of cards dressed as an institution. If transparency truly exists, then let it be demonstrated — not through eloquent reassurances or vague allusions to Finnish law, but through a clear, unambiguous breakdown: How were the funds from Winter and Spring allocated? To whom, and for what purposes, were these community-generated revenues dispersed? How much of the collected license income remains, and how much has been siphoned into operations that have yielded no tangible benefit to the players themselves? I say this not with hostility but with genuine sorrow. Many of us have supported this platform for years, not out of obligation, but out of respect — for Kenu, for the staff, and for what Sportsgamer once represented. Yet the current silence on financial specifics speaks louder than any apology ever could. Trust, once fractured, cannot be repaired by poetic statements or hopeful projections. It is rebuilt only through truth, accountability, and action. Until the missing figures are laid bare and the debts are paid, the integrity of this entire project hangs by a thread. In all sincerity, I hope this is the moment when words give way to deeds — for if not now, I fear there will soon be nothing left to save.

I think SG has already given one or several quite important answers… The way of paying in 4 installments makes sense, just like with many companies that are going through a difficult time. I think that everything you wanted to introduce with other player formats and all the live commentaries should probably be stopped… I believe I understand that it’s costing you money, and if that’s the case, those are unnecessary losses for a hockey platform that already has limited visibility — even more so for eSports, unfortunately. It’s the small details that make a big difference. If you refund and share a bit more information about where you’ve had major losses, we’ll understand much better… but let’s go back to the NHLGamer days, the time when things were simpler. Let’s return to the good old days without trying to do “always more.” We won’t make a living from NHL anyway. We hope everything will be resolved soon!! 🙏

This is not rebuilding trust. It is delaying responsibility. You are now asking the community to accept a payment plan for money that should have been paid out months ago. That is not transparency, that is a desperate attempt to stay alive. No legitimate organization needs three months and four installments to pay what players already earned. Telling players that they can use their prize money to buy an ECL 26 license is not a solution. It is proof that you are using new seasons to fund old debts. That is not a community project. That is a broken financial cycle that only works as long as people keep paying in. You also lowered the prize share from 50 percent to 35 percent of the license income. That is not honesty, it is confirmation that the situation is worse than you admit. And calculating it after VAT and transaction fees makes the real number even smaller. Players get less and less every year while the costs keep going up. You keep talking about compliance with Finnish law, but nobody ever said this was illegal. The problem is not legality. The problem is trust. You promised guaranteed prize pools, and the money is missing. That is what the community wants to know. Where did all those thousands of euros disappear? That is what people are asking for — a straight answer. Have you also made a payment plan with iRSPe that his company has accepted? Or is that something you simply plan to ignore too? You do not rebuild trust with long messages or future promises. You rebuild it by paying what you owe and by showing where the money went. Until that happens, no serious team, player or sponsor should continue supporting SportsGamer. For years this community gave you their time, effort and trust. You spent all of it. Now it is time to stop talking and start proving.

SG or @OGjahajaha can prove me wrong, but i believe nobody was ever paid for articles(?). i got one free player license after asking for it, you could consider that a payment, but its like 10€. even tho some people think broadcast costs are close to 1.5k € per stream, they might be actually be close to free as well. @bMaJuH could probably give some info -- did you receive any payments for being a commentator? i dont really know what else could be the largest expense besides the actual commentator for a free Twitch stream. LAN expenses have to be the most expensive thing, and they could be skipped without much impact.

🧠 Balanced & Clever (diplomatic with bte): Well said — sounds like the community’s asking for transparency, not a magic trick. Let’s just hope “fixing the debts” doesn’t turn into “debts being fixed in post.” 🔥 Witty with a hint of sarcasm: Asking for transparency shouldn’t feel like trying to unlock a secret level, but here we are. Hopefully the next update comes with patch notes and answers. 🎯 Short and sharp: Translation: “We appreciate the effort, but where’s the money, Lebowski?” 😏 Dry humor approach: Glad to hear the debts are being fixed — now if only answers were part of the repair package. 💬 Calm but cutting: The community’s not asking for miracles, just math that adds up.