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First off, could you please use paragraphs? It’s honestly painful to read sometimes. Anyway, to the point... I’m probably not gonna play anywhere, so I’ve got nothing to say about other leagues. For me, it’s not about the money it’s about principle. Even if I do play, I’m more than happy to pay someone for their hard work. But first, all these problems need to be sorted out. Otherwise, we’ll be in the exact same situation a year from now. And really are you willing to pay more when you know they owe money to teams and companies, like in Irspe’s case? Personally, I’m not going to.

What you suggest? give money to other league, to guys you dont know, if they even can run league for season long, with all what sportsgamer staff did? or just leave hockey for year and lets see what happens? you can go to ithl, and play there, no big reason to play there. I am not that poor that i have problems to buy 30 euros license for year of experience, i love what doing sportsgamer, i dont even care about this winning prizes, its so small so i dont even bother about that. I know how many hours of free time guys put it for no money, so 30 euros for subscribe is okey in my opinion. I dont know how big is your wining prize pool what you wanting, but cmon, you should work and you will not cry for delay of this amount of money. ECL elite prize pool is something to be wanting get back others lower is like 100-200euros wining money to player or even less.. so its just making scandal for no reason here .

How exactly would you fund this as it seems there is no money at all? I think there are a lot of things to sort out before even thinking of a new season. I don't mean to be rude but you have to be an absolute idiot to give more money before all this s**t is sorted out. First step is to pay the old debts and secondly stick to the promised deadlines. I really don't know the reason behind the lack of information but I think the longer we have to wait for more info on the finance or the new season the more it will harm Sportsgamer and the trust. Now everybody is making their own conclusions of what's going on and this is not a good thing at all.

LOL. its crazy to say noone will play ECL. like our team thinking of still joining. My opinion - Lets see what they decide with payments. I think player license buying is okey, but buying license for team is not okey (2 times pay for participating) if they reduce prize pools or remove it at all. Also i think prize pools need to be only in ELITE division, because now lot of ELITE guys go PRO division, PRO goes LITE division - because easier cash out money. If someone realy want to compete for money then go ELITE and make it only moneybuisness, dont touch guys till ELITE division.

Hey hey hey no need to cook me i just wanted to talk about things i’m passionate about

Alright bro, listen up. The message was clear — they do have money problems. What you don’t seem to get is that when a company has financial issues — like many others around the world — delays are inevitable. I’m not part of the staff, and honestly, I get pissed at them too. But SG is just a tiny company in the grand scheme of things. They made some mistakes, got a bit ahead of themselves, and now they’re paying for it. It happens — humans make errors. The real issue right now is that everyone’s running their mouth, but not one of you has ever actually run a business. You don’t know what it’s like or what kind of pressure and constraints business owners deal with. It’s always easy to criticize when you’re just an employee. And let’s be honest — thinking you could make a living off NHL or that it would really blow up? That’s kind of naive. Nobody really cares about hockey that much. Back to the topic of companies — I know this stuff well. Nearly my entire family runs or owns international businesses (so yeah, for those drooling over the Saudi connection, now you know the truth). But at some point — just shut up already. There are even two alternative leagues in the works if SG doesn’t recover. But as of now, SG isn’t dead yet. And like I always say — everyone talks a big game, but you’ll all be the first ones back playing the next ECL. You all are getting on my nerves with how ridiculous this has become. If you’re not happy, then leave — we get it.

I didn’t read this thoroughly but something about eating ass? I’m partial. 🤝

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So if sportsgamer doesn't want to pay, why stay here whining? Isn't it heading towards new disappointments and new leagues?

Well if they cant pay invoice which is sum of 2€ to PRH you cant wait any money of them (and before you who doesn’t understand and start yelling of something about this being a lie this information is from their credit risk information). But hey new ECL season coming so get ready to pay up!

It’s all good bro. Patzlaf has already confirmed that Sportsgamer is going to pay. 😂 Listen to the Elite players. If they refuse to believe there are any problems, then there are no problems. Just fall in line.

Some people may be wondering why I disappeared from the scene after early 2024. This is my situation: My company had unpaid invoices from SportsGamer from early 2024. A claim was filed in the District Court, and a judgment has been given. However, the enforcement authority has not been able to collect the payment from the company. There have been no updates to the situation during the past six months.

Yeah, I truly hope we get more information soon about where the money has gone and why there’s been such a delay with the payments. It’s concerning that the teams still haven’t been paid. No one should be expected to make any further payments until all debts are settled.

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yeah, thats why i joked about the beginning of your post and the last thing u said. i bet the new info from SG will be something like this: -> we hear you -> thanks for the communication -> times are difficult with VAT increase -> we are eager to fix this for the future -> lets start the szn >>> fast forward 1 year -> we have this problem with payments

I’m not sure if you read my whole post, but I was talking about waiting a day or two so we hopefully have more facts.

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Yeah, same here. They’ve been offering the option to either receive money or pay the participation fee with the money.

I have received prize money since they have been part of SportsGamer. That 90 day payment period has not been true after the first two years and I don't understand why it has been in the rulebook for so long. Without a doubt, the payment of the money has taken too long and I understand everyone's pain because you have to pay for this. But don't worry, you will definitely get your money! 🫡

Geez… people here have less patience than my 3-year-old daughter (and hers is absolutely sh**e). Looks like some of you just want drama. People shouldn’t judge before knowing the facts! Sportsgamer promised to give more info in a couple of days, so by tomorrow (Friday) at the latest (?). Why can’t you just wait a bit and then judge when you have the facts? I understand the appropriate questions because people want answers. I’ve known Kenu since before most of you were even born. If there’s one person in the world who would never steal your money or scam you in any way, it’s Kenu. People seem to forget pretty fast. Remember that Kenu has done this for years and years for free. Because it is his passion. At least we owe him the chance to explain everything. From my point of view, maybe not all the wisest decisions have been made but the community should also take a look in the mirror. The community demanded prize pools under the threat of leaving Sportsgamer (a few years ago), and… here we are. Sportsgamer was NOT ready for this. One thing I know is that it's not easy to get a sponsor for this game. Also, to the people here advertising other leagues: there’s a saying “the grass isn’t always greener on the other side”. It takes a lot of work to manage a league and deal with all its problems. You need to be extremely passionate about it to do it all for free. …And before people start saying I’m taking sides, that’s not true. Do I agree that people should receive their money asap and that the payments have taken unacceptably long? Yes. Do I think some risky decisions were made? Yes. Do I think Sportsgamer shouldn’t ask for more money before the old debts are paid? Yes. I don't know why the payments haven't been made in 90 days as promised, but all I’m asking for is a little bit of patience - let them publish the info before judging. I know for a fact that many players, including Elite players, have opinions or suggestions or are blaming SportsGamer. Why are they not opening their mouths now when it's time to speak? That’s because the community is so toxic and they are afraid of being bullied or slaughtered. So they criticize SportsGamer in private. Man up and open your mouth if you have something to say!

forgot and cant edit my old post. from sportsgamer post : "A more detailed update about the ECL and our next steps will be shared within the next couple of days." so atleast i will give them "couple of days" so hopefully they have all the answers within a few days. if they dont answer all the questions about where the money has gone etc. i think this will die unfortunately.

I fully agree with every word of this text. This is a great solution to the current situation for all parties.

but you cant write that you should get the payment within 90 days then not keep it. if you order clothes or anything and it should take 90 days. but takes over 1 year. will you order from there again? would think that most people would not buy from that company again. and yes most of us dont even win any money. but lets take the same example again. if I order something I check trustpilot or something like that. and it says that all orders are delayed. then peaple will not order. its a bit the same here. theres still a chance that you win then you want your money after 90 days. so again pay back all the money youre behind on. then you can change the deal / rule and see if people agree to it or not.