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Are you happy to always be here breaking balls? Good job, no one was talking to you!

Was just about to delete it 🤣

Can you market your own league somewhere else, thank you!

Putain, ton langage est tellement sexy!

Je trouve pas possibilité d’invitation sur discord ? Edgard_gcn

Yup seems to got some more interest 🤔

Your new League ?

Adorable reply. The popcorn line was cute, it really drives home the point that you’re here for entertainment, not understanding. You keep painting this picture where the only two options are Kenu living in a mansion or everyone needs to shut up and be grateful. Reality sits somewhere in between. No one is accusing anyone of hiding money under a mattress in Espoo. The issue is that players paid for something, didn’t receive what was promised, and are being met with condescending lectures instead of accountability. And since you brought up Einstein, he didn’t leave the building. He probably just got tired of explaining basic logic to people who mistake loyalty for intelligence.

The ITHL league is interesting, even though I've often been in conflict with them because personally they've been a pain in the ass with the number of games you have to play each week, otherwise you're disqualified... which happened when I was on vacation, etc. But I respect them because they have a very small website and they do what they can. And they've always managed to get by, but the rules are sometimes a little more lenient than those of Sportgamer... If Sportgamer were to disappear, which would be unfortunate, there are other options, but it would be sad if that were to happen.

So you’re not calling it a scam anymore which was my original intent. I’m glad. Another Einstein leaves the building and I mean literally, I am personally happy to play in ITHL and leave this dumpsterfire until it gets its shit together.

Appreciate the civil tone, finally a reply that doesn’t sound like it was typed mid meltdown. But let’s be honest. If a company continuously takes money from players, promises prize pools, and then fails to deliver year after year, that’s not bad business. That’s business gone bad. You can wrap it in fancy terms like cashflow issues or unlucky timing, but at the end of the day, people paid for a product and didn’t get what they were promised. If a company can’t handle that responsibility, it shouldn’t be selling licenses or hosting tournaments. And please, spare the government tax increase sob story. We’re not talking about a bakery that couldn’t afford flour, we’re talking about an organization that has pocketed tens of thousands of euros from a paying player base, then gone silent when it’s time to pay out. So yes, you might have a BBA, and that’s great. But you don’t need a degree in international business to recognize when the books don’t balance. You just need a bit of common sense and a moral compass that points somewhere other than excuse management.

Yeah SG hasn’t been transparent and yeah players should have received their payments on time but it still isn’t a scam, it’s just bad business. I am sure if Kenu or someone else at SG had landed a big ass sponsorship deal or two for this year’s ECLs we wouldn’t even be discussing in this thread - they have tried almost everything to find the cashflow because that’s what small business owners do. You make a business plan for a fiscal year with a certain budget and then the goverment slaps you with a 2.5x VAT increase while you’re struggling to close sponsorship deals. If the only cash reserve you had at that point was external funding, how likely is it that you’re gonna get more after such events? P.S. I’m not a self-proclaimed business expert, just a marketing consultant with a BBA degree in international business.

I want to be clear: I fully respect what Kenu has done and continues to do for the NHL community. That work shouldn’t be overlooked. However, the ongoing delays in prize pool payouts raise legitimate concerns. In this space, transparency is key, especially when it involves players' trust and financial matters. Having worked in this area for a while, I’m not speaking out of turn — I understand how these processes typically work. My intention isn’t to attack or accuse anyone personally, and this isn’t the place for that anyway. All I’m asking for is clarity around the delays. If there’s a valid reason, a straightforward explanation would go a long way in maintaining goodwill within the community.

Yes. Financial statements of Sportsgamer from financial years 2023 and 2024 are not there like they supposed to be long time ago.

I was trying to find these too but looks like financial statements from 2023 and 2024 are missing. This is the page: https://virre.prh.fi/novus/home and copy paste this Business ID (y-tunnus): 3192899-5

more u speak, less intelligent u seem to me, so please continue, i have my popcorn`s ready, unlike u, yes i understand your point and ye it sucks when u dont get your money, but its not like KENU has nice house in Espoo westend or hit all the money in his sleeve and scam us all to make himself smth :DD but like we have seen years now here in internet that some certain idealogic is that u YELL everyone else shut up on only ONE truth and opinion is correct, so yeah keep yelling same thing after n after to make it your truth, Einstein has LEFT THE BUILDING

Ah, finally, the Einsteins have arrived. Always fascinating how the self-proclaimed business experts show up the moment someone mentions accountability. Let’s make this simple. The issue isn’t about understanding business models, it’s about a company that doesn’t pay out prize money that players have rightfully earned. That’s not a cashflow issue, that’s a breach of trust. If you buy a lottery ticket and win, you expect your winnings. You don’t expect to wait twelve months and be told to be patient because the organizer spent your money somewhere else. What you’re describing isn’t business, it’s mismanagement dressed up as martyrdom. “Thousands of free hours,” “small business struggles,” “support the community”… it’s the same emotional violin every time. Meanwhile, players who paid to participate are left with nothing but excuses. So please, spare us the hero speech. This isn’t a charity, it’s a paid competition. And when the house stops paying out, it stops being a game —> it becomes a scam

thats true, most of the people crying here dont have a fukin clue how business model works, and how small is business if u make about 100k after taxes, even if u make millions or hundreds millions u can bankrupt easily if cashflow is empty, KENU has done FOR US thousands hours free label to make us cry babes happy, sure desperate ppl makes desperate moves, but it is so easy to shout here after things go wrong, in small business only one bad move or risk with money can bankrupt u, and does ppl really thinks that maintance is free, everything cost smth, and when u are small, u really cant pay much ppl for content here in website example etc... I THANK KENU AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAVE ENABLE US THIS HOBBY FOR YEARS n YEARS, every hobby cost smth, this is hobby not smth u earn your living... instead hitting man on the ground lets support community which has give us so much past 15y... TACK OCH HEJ !!!

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Im playing here not for prize pool, but for fun and competition, so for me, free league is not a problem, every prize pool win only elites, top pros, or pros who goes lite :D. so i am pretty sure 90% of players never winned prize pool so to put it out like its only why we play and its only what hold us together ir bs. different is that sportagamer adiminstration wants profit, thats other story, and of course you dont want to do stuff for free puting soul and time in to community what is not profitable just for idea. yeah but we are paying for running this community with our licenses so maybe dont need to make your salarys up to the roof, and just profit as much to make sportsgamer work stable , its like about everything - if you got money from customer, then be ready to give back wining prizes or something to customer like product why we pay?, if you just take money and dont give nothing to customer its scaming, and its law breaking customer rights and also if you are charity organisation, "we are living just what you donate" then offering license prices is again breaking law. So it just big scam for now i see.I was thinking we pay licenses so sportsgamer could work and so on, but now seems like its not enough, our someone wants so much money to steal or what, and its not anymore like community of gamers, but trying to be some big company what is stealing all money and then go bankrupt.

All financial statements should be sent to PRH by every limited liability companies in Finland: https://prh.fi/fi/index.html These documents are public so they can be bought from that PRH site. From those documents you should be able to see where the money goes in every company whose financial statements are sent there including Sportsgamer. 2025 is not there yet because the financial year is 1.1-31.12. so 2025 information should be there in next spring but 2023 and 2024 should be there already.

Can we get the financial results and statements for the years 2023 and 2024?

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I know! But I can't edit it! (for real) 😅

My pronouns are he/him. But thanks for the compliment and for breaking down the numbers like you just did.