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As a goalie I'm not looking forward for next season. Without abilities goalies suck. I can agree elite sponge and post to post is too good. But it would be better that goalies could only choose gold x-factors. Ea didn't make the game thinking about goalies only skaters. It is not going to be who is better goalie. It's just who can avoid unavoidable Ea bs.

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I genuinely think there were some great ideas on how to make this decision in a much better way, whatever the outcome would have been. Perhaps this is the best for the game. It’s impossible to say yet. Maybe we will actually like it much more, we’ll have to see. BUT the way this was handled, like it seems with all the other decisions, was quite poor. We are all paying for this, so I would have at least hoped that the teams/captains had actually been asked what they really wanted, instead of making dictatorship-like decisions. This was first announced too early (in the middle of the season) and then deleted after the reactions. “We have come to this decision based on community feedback.” I’m sorry, but this feels like total nonsense. Where did you get this feedback from? Not here. From what I read and understand in the comments, it’s more like 50-50.

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To be clear, I am not suggesting the more skilled team doesn't usually beat the less skilled team in this game. The game just doesn't match my interpretation of a "pure competitive experience". I agree that the abilities brought NHL even further from games I hold up as examples of this (such as Rocket League or Counter-Strike). But to me, the core game itself still has various aspects outside the abilities that take away from that purity. Most of these are from EA trying to recreate actual hockey, with varying success. There are many changes I have always liked to see. On the defensive side, the poke check is one example and puck interceptions are another. I would like these features to be more manual and consistent at the same time. I would like to see a game where you truly had to control the poke check for yourself (whereas now it is always initially aimed at the puck on pressing R1, regardless of whether you leave the button held or not) and where you truly had to control the interceptions for yourself (whereas now you merely position and orient your player correctly for the best chance at an automatic interception). I am not saying poke checks or interceptions currently require no skill or awareness of game mechanics whatsoever. They certainly do. But in my ideal game, these things would require more skill than now while being more powerful than now whenever correctly executed. This would make them more difficult to use, but also more rewarding when used well. Of course, I'm straying rather far from the topic.

Survey would have been nice? Only gold abilities maybe?

Good decision! From goalie perspective: Imo elite sponge and other save related abilities just gives you way too many unrealistic saves when you're out of position or just too late to one tees etc. Reason for funny looking goals against are weird animations, which have nothing to do with the abilities. And I think that is sadly just part of the game at this point. Rng just throws it at you when the code tells it's time for scoring😄 What I've tested without abilities, I had more balanced gameplay and more solid animations between the pipes.

It is tho, the game will only be skillbased? No perks = only skill

i hope you are right. i think i will be saving the same amount nothing will change so much lets see how it end up in games. just i am a bit worried about goalie situation because hut and 1v1 and offline goalies is realy bad. my goalie cant cover shortside lol, i take away this far side, and player dont even need to beat goalie far side :d he just snipes easy shortside with some stupid move.

I dont have any teams i dont like( except tiki talk because then i need to stand on my own blueline all the game🤣) Ofcourse 95 percent of the players still gonna be great but the fact is still that we schould not have abilities that help you in the game in my opinion. Defend with "stick em up". I dont even need to aim the stick. Jani we schould not have that i a competitive game. Sponge, beauty backhand, rocket is the same shit.

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I actually think what you are describing is exactly the same in real hockey. You cannot leave a gap, because if the shooter manages to hit that gap, whether through skill or luck, it is a goal. Just like in real hockey, it is not only up to the goalie to be ready for the short side, the slot, and the back post at the same time. You have defensemen in front of you who are supposed to block shots, do the right mechanical things, clear the crease, and take away passing lanes. The idea that a goalie in a game should be like some kind of superhero who can cover all three threats at the same time would actually be unreasonable. At that point even I could play goalie. In every situation, regardless of position, you have to give up some part of the ice. It comes down to hockey sense and making the right read. And even with sponge or abilities, there are still bugs in the game today where goalies fly around in butterfly. That is something we will probably never fully get rid of when these developers keep releasing unfinished games year after year. It is what it is.

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i agree. but im not talking about goals, what make as be beated by onetimer, cross crease pass. im talking about shortside bs, where we need to overlap crazy to get it, and then get back to middle of net to get one timer or backdoor shot, and this times where you get sniped from blue when you top of crease and noone is even near to block your vision, or other straight shots whats going in, this five hole shots, what we always delayed last years and more and more bs goals. and this breakaway bulshit, what you can stop actualy if skater is stupid and miss the net, if you learn to score you will score everytime, no matter what we do even if you read goalie triggers shit animation and let in or just fall in desperate save. there is lot of factors what make us goalies bad not because we are bad, but because core game mechanics is shit for goalies. and showstopper and sponge was a bit helping as to compete in net more.

For what it's worth, I used to play goalie a lot more than now. I felt I was much better before EA introduced the abilities. It felt much easier to me, and there were far fewer goals where I felt like I was doing the right thing and still allowed a goal.

I believe this is mainly about Hockey IQ. Too many goalies today, even if they have played the position for five to ten years, do not move on long one timers. At the same time, they expect the game to bail them out with an ability and make the save for them. (Which it does today) I cannot even begin to count how many times I have been frustrated because a goalie fails to read a one timer that we skaters can see developing seconds in advance, from far away, and that should be an easy save. I do not have many games in net, but I am the defenseman who has blocked the most shots of all time on sportsgamer. And I honestly believe it is not that difficult to read the shooter’s lane. You just have to be in position before the shot is taken. In my opinion, you allow one timers as a goalie if you do not react before the puck is struck. If you stand still and your goalie freezes, then you have failed to read the play and your reaction time is too slow.If you have played goalie for about a year, this is something you should have learned by then. But what do I know, I am not a goalie. In the end, it is about getting your body behind the puck. Look at Stammer and Sere in the Elite final. It is chest to puck all the time. And when they failed, sponge was there, or it ended up as a goal.

thats what i am afraid of, skaters will always be favorites for ea sport, so this all glitch goals will be a lot easier to score on goalies, because no balancing with abilities. but its need to be tested, i tested some games, there was a lot more bs goals, then with sponge and showstopped. so i dont know.

It really isn't, though. You need a game like Rocket League to get something like that or at least much closer to it. This is a tempting sentiment, right? Especially because people have teams or players they don't like so much, so obviously those teams or players will be bottom of the barrel once they can no longer rely on their beloved abilities. But we have both been around a long, long time. We have seen plenty of changes and their impact to the game, and I think we'll find history repeating itself. The players who were good using the traits will still be good going forward, and vice versa. Maybe there will be an adjustment period to get rid of certain bad habits from using the abilities. But eventually, I think we will simply have a different flavor of the game. Possibly a preferable one.

I agree, but how i can tell my goalie to react in time, if abilities was giving me this reaction, and game core mechanic is delaying or other way around? its just what i am considered about not about making unreal saves, some saves is stupidly easy i would say, but there is so many saves what i should save everyday, and goalie acts stupid and put in self or just cant cover pad to the ice or trigger animation to move glove out or do it with delay, with all abilities on, so what will happen without abilities? maybe we will be better because skater abilities will not give errors, maybe we will be slow and stupid because we dont have this abilities to balance out, i dont know, but it will realy be 2 different worlds goalies and skaters, because skater do animation and we react, and you can control how fast where to shoot how strong how tricky, but we cant hold button longer like to get faster reaction time and aim our glove, even with instinct we cant be sure even when we do it all right, and predict shot we cant get greens and save shots.

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But now it is purely skill versus skill, with no other handicaps involved. I do not understand what people are complaining about. Except for the fact that some players have started building their careers with the help of abilities that cover up their weaknesses, for example being able to execute a perfectly timed poke. Or other players who revived their careers because X factors compensated for their flaws. If you combine that with something like hybrid controls, where the game basically gives you perfect timing, then I understand why some players think this is terrible. Because now all the training wheels are gone. You schould not get help to be a better player with abilities in my opinion.